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Old Thu, Jan-16-03, 09:50
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Default Diet soda on induction

So im reading a few different things here.. So is it bad just because its got a sorta sweet taste and makes you crave? Or is it bad because diet soda will make you stall? I can't just drink water all day, its too boring.. a diet coke here and there would be just fine by me.
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Old Thu, Jan-16-03, 09:54
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I would say both but some people keep their sodas in moderation and do fine. The Hansen Diet Sodas are sweetened with allowe Splenda and my husband bought some for him. I tasted and they are great! But I drink water all day. The more I drink, the more I crave...water that is. You ARE drinking at least 64 oz. water a day aren't you?
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Old Thu, Jan-16-03, 10:26
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hhmmm not sure, i just drink maybe 2 glasses a day.. i guess i should get that one up a bit eh... how many is good to promote loss?
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Old Thu, Jan-16-03, 11:14
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I found this excellent post on another thread. It bears repeating. When you stop for a sode, you buy a bottle of water. You will get in the habit...
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WATER
How 8 Glasses A Day Keep Fat Away

Incredible as it may seem, water is quite possible the single most important catayst in losing weight and keeping it off. Although most of us take it for granted, water may be the only true "magic potion" for permanent weight loss.

Water surppresses the appetite naturaily and helps the body metabolize stored fat.

Studies have shown that a decrease in the water intake will cause fat deposits to increase, while an increase in water intake can actually reduce fat deposits.

Here's why:
The kidneys can't function properly without enough water. When they don't work to capacity, some of their load is dumped onto the liver. One of the liver's primary functions is to metabolize stored fat into usable energy for the body. But, if the liver has to do some of the kidney's work, it can't operate at full throttle. As a result, it metabolizes less fat, more fat remains stored in the body and weight loss stops.

Drinking enough water is the best treatment for fluid retention. When the body gets less water, it perceives this as a threat to survival and begins to hold on to every drop. Water is stored in extracellular spaces (outside the cells). This shows up as swollen feet, legs and hands. Diuretics offer a temporary solution at best. They force out stored water along with some essential nutrients. Again, the body perceives a threat and will replace the lost water at the first opportunity. Thus, the condition quickly returns.

The best way to overcome the problem of water rentention is to give your body what it needs....plenty of water. Only then will stored water be released.

If you have a constant problem with water retention, excess salt may be to blame. Your body will tolerate sodium only in a certain concentration. The more salt you eat, the more water your system retains to dilute it. But getting rid of unneeded salt is easy......just drink more water. As it's forced through the kidneys, it takes away excess sodium.

An overweight person needs more water than thin ones. Larger people have larger metabolic loads. Since we know that water is the key to fat metabolism, it follows that the overweight person needs more water.

Water helps to maintain proper muscle tone by giving muscles their natural ability to contract and by preventing dehydration. It also helps to prevent the sagging skin that usually follows weight loss...shrinking cells are buoyed by water which plumps the skin and keeps it clear, healthy and resilent.

Water helps rid the body of waste, during weight loss the body has a lot more waste to get rid of....all that metabolized fat must be shed. Again, adequate water helps flush out the waste. Water can help relieve constipation. When the body gets too little water, it siphons what it needs from internal sources. The colon is one primary source. Result? Constipation. But, when a person drinks enough water , normal bowel function usually returns.

So far, we've discovered some remarkable truths about water and weight loss:

*The body will not function properly without enough water and can't metabolize stored fat efficiently.

*Retained water shows up as excess weight.

*To get rid of excess water you must drink more water.

*Drinking water is essential to weight loss.

How much water is enough?

On the average a person should drink eight 8oz. glasses every
day. That's about 2 quarts . However, the overweight person needs one additional glass for every 25 pounds of excess weight.

The amount you drink also should be increased if you exercise briskly or if the weather is hot and dry. Water should preferably be cold...it's absorbed into the system more quickly than warm
water. And some evidence suggests that drinking cold water can actually help burn calories.

To utilize water most efficiently during weight loss, we suggest following this schedule:

MORNING--1 quart consumed over a 30min. period.

NOON-- 1 quart consumed over a 30min. period.

EVENING--1 quart consumed over a 30min. period.

When the body gets the water it needs to function optimally, it's fluids are perfectly balanced. When this happens you have reached the "breakthrough point".

What does this mean?

*Endocrine-glad function improves.

*Fluid retention is alleviated as stored water is lost.

*More fat is used as fuel because the liver is free to metabolize stored fat.

*Natural thirst returns.

*There is a loss of hunger almost overnight.

If you stop drinking enough water, your body fluids will be thrown out of balance again and you may experience fluid retention, unexplanied weight gain and loss of thirst. To remedy the situation you'll have to go back and force another "breakthrough".


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Old Fri, Jan-17-03, 09:50
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Is their any allowed diet colas that is even close to diet pepsi? I've not had one still Saturday and sure would like a good cold glass of diet pepsi!
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Old Fri, Jan-17-03, 09:51
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major ooooppps. I've not had one since Saturday! Sorry guys
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Old Fri, Jan-17-03, 12:30
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You can have one if you REALLY want ONE!
Hansens makes soda with Splenda......very good
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Old Fri, Jan-17-03, 12:54
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I don't drink all that much soda, but without sweets - a diet soda tastes realy G O O D! But, I wasn't sure if it would stall me or take me out of ketosis... so I did a test day.

I was in ketosis (dark purple in fact)
I had a few diet Slice (orange drink) - (I ate the very same things both days... which is not hard to do while on induction )

I was out of the pink in no time = no ketosis while drinking Diet Slice.

Thank you for sharing the idea of the Diet Hanson and Diet Rite (both with Splendra) Think I will give those a Test Day !
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Old Sat, Jan-18-03, 07:09
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mmm been reading about the diet coke thing. actually i have been drinking a can a day during induction and as i have only been doing it four days (properly) i cant tell if its affected my weight loss. may try stopping. what about the flavoured waters. i know that some have high carbs but some are really low. how about them for a change?
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Old Sun, Jan-19-03, 11:28
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Diet Rite cola is Splenda sweetened and might do for a Pepsi fix.
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Old Sun, Jan-19-03, 14:02
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Default It depends on you!

In my induction I never even thought of the 4-5 12 oz Diet Pepsi's I drank nor the 6 cups of coffee with 4 packs of Equal per.... and I lost about 15 lbs in two weeks. But then I stalled, and for almost a week, I lost nothing. So then I looked into the facts behind this and decided to try cutting out the "extras" So I cut out all caffine and sweetners. I didn't have any Splenda or I went cold turkey.... I had about 3 days of headache and general grouchiness and then "release". So in the 3 weeks since then I've restarted the weight loss. Would I have lost anyway, most likely yes, but I feel better now without it. Do I crave them still, yes, and some day when I feel like it I'll have a nice Breve or Latte, with Sweet n low or Splenda.... I think some people are more sensitive to it than others. So I went from 215 to about 200 in 14 days, stalled, stopped the non-cal sweetners and caffine and then lost down to 194 since then, about 18 days for another 6 lbs. Induction usually makes the weight loss the fastest so with me now adding carb back in (I'm very physically active) for me to lose the other 6 lbs more slowly is OK. I think I'll go back into induction at the end of the month, starting Feb 1st.

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Old Wed, Jan-22-03, 09:27
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Default diet sodas and no caffiene

I'm just now into week 3 on atkins, and during Induction I did drink diet soda regularly, mostly I drank Diet Sprite, caffiene free Diet Coke, and Fresca. Additionally I was drinking no water which I now know is a BIG necessity. So today I've started with 3 quarts of water a day as my water goal.

I drink decaf coffee in the morning with cream and SnL (total about 3.5g carbs)

Also for a drink I occasionally have a Minute Maid Lemonade Light (2g carbs). I'm curious to know if I should start cutting all of these other drinks out. I lost 12 lbs in Induction, but I have a lot to lose and have always heard that the weight comes off the fastest at the beginning.

My two cents, lemme know if I owe you change.
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