Where do you get your squirrels Tater? Are they free-range squirrels or are you buying them at Wal-mart for $.99/lb?

Wal-mart. They're not organic, but their nuts have never been sprayed with pesticides, I'm told.

Seriously, though, ysabella has a point. Some people are just SO sure they have all the answers and can speak with authority about how ALL fat people think and feel... it just gets old.

It's cool to disagree, since that's how we learn. It's just too bad some people are stuck on their own perception too much to see any other way.

Occasionally, though, karma comes through and you see some of the worst lecturing know-alls slip up and regain their weight, coming back months later to try again. I notice they aren't very likely, even then, to apologize to the ones they kicked the butts of before for being "weak"...

<shrug>

I can't say I've noticed threads like that but then again I haven't been around as much as usual lately, either.
I'm sure that there are those that have an all-or-nothing attitude about weight loss and that's not necessarily a bad thing unless determination and focus becomes obesession. If it gets to a point where a person finds themselves giving up all sorts of things that they find pleasurable (relationships, hobbies, etc..) so that they can 'focus' on weight loss exclusively, I think that may be a danger sign, especially if it's expressed along with statements or ideas that the person can't feel good about themselves or that their lives will be horrible until they attain some magic number on the scale.

Because when the remote is ALMOST DEAD, it SEEMS DEAD unless you press the buttons harder/longer! Try it, it works!

cjl

Can anyone advise me now that I am simply losing no more weight on the low carb if moving to weight watchers might make my weigt go up b4 down until it gets sorted in my system?

Any Ideas?. am sick of low carbbing

Wyv, stout is pretty low in carb content. It ferments quite dry, and the 'heaviness' is really just from the roasted barley flavour.

I go to Weight Watchers these days, and I like it -- it really kickstarted my weight loss. I had lost about 90 pounds on my own, and I had plateaued for several months, and I was losing interest. I was terrified that I would start regaining the weight, so I searched around for alternatives. WW is a terrific program that allows you the freedom to eat however you want (within reason). Their new "core" program is a clean eating plan that works very well for most people. Unlimited meats, veggies, fruits. If you don't want to do that, their "points" plan is still there, and with that, you count points. You need to get in a certain amount of dairy (for calcium) and healthy oils, but other than that, you are on your own. Joining WW was great for me. I started in early March, and have lost 40 pounds, bringing my total to ~135 pounds total!

I am not the type of person that can stick with a program if it's not working well for me. I've vowed to be at or near my goal weight by the end of this year, and I've vowed to run a half marathon in January, and I will do what it takes to reach these goals. If it means embracing a different eating plan every week until then, so be it!

You can attend a WW meeting without committing to the program, and I would encourage you to do this. Another plan that I think highly of is Nutrisystem. It's now a low-glycemic program that is completely online -- you just buy the food -- no registration fees. I buy the food and combine the tenets of both WW and NS. Like I said, you do what works, and this works very well for me. If it doesn't work, I stop doing it. I "fired" the Atkins plan when it didn't work well for me. Why keep doing it if it bores you or doesn't work?!

We're all different, and different things work for different people. I did the Suzanne Somers program about 4 years ago, and lost absolutely no weight at all. But I know people on this site who have done beautifully with it. Keep experimenting until you find what works for you. Good luck!

Stout, dry, compared to what? I don't know the specs but the stuff I get at the brew pub is Fishtale, usually the organic IPA or whatever stout is on tap, and they have to be at least 016-17 FG, by the taste of them or I wouldn't bother dunno what that would translate to in carbs but I ain't takin chances... one a week is enough and certainly one in an evening 'cause that's all it takes to get me halfway tanked these days!

Wyv

Not that low, K. 16 fl oz has 18 carbs.

Roz

Hmphf. Elsewhere on the net, it's listed as having a nutrition breakdown roughly the same as Bud Light - less than 10 g per pint.

Yes, sadly this is another low carb myth

Amen Sister!! Love this post!