I believe this might be a stretch for them, based on the following information:


Now, I know I haven't read the South Beach books yet, but after reading this quote here:


I'm wondering if that isn't because of this:



I would think fruit juices have a less balanced ratio of fructose to fiber, obviously containing more fructose than fiber, just as Lisa N posted.

The only juice I'll drink is "not from concentrate" like Tropicana's Pure Premium Original (not from concentrate), and even then I only drink it when I'm sick.


Now that they have released Light and Healthy I might give that a try, but I'm not sure if that's from concentrate or not.


Sorry, the grapefruit diet did nothing for me other than cause me to develop an intense dislike for grapefruits.


Maybe Dr. Arthur Agatston needs to hook up with Oprah's lawyers.

This article has given me a little more incentive to read the SBD book. I'm really curious as to what "lies" Dr. Agatson has to say that is malicious about fruit juice.

Exactly, a medium Grapefruit is bigger...

Grapefruit = 4.0π
Orange = 1.7π
Tangelo = 1.6π
Tangerine = 1.4π

That would be the area of the flat surface if you cut the fruit in half...If you cut them into slices of equal thickness, a Grapefruit would be more than twice the size of an Orange, Tangelo, or Tangerine.

Well I sure miss my orange juice. I lived in Florida 12 years and had a yard full of fruit trees. I had an orange tree, a grapefruit tree, 3 papayas and an avacado. I love fresh citus and miss it a LOT.

I used to have a Key Lime Tree...and my next door neighbor had an Orange Tree. But, that was when I was still living in Broward County...There's Orange Farms for miles in South Central Florida along the Railroad tracks. If you ever ride the train up through the state, they seem to go on forever. There's also a couple kids who throw Oranges at the train...But, that's another story.

Wouldn't it be smarter to spend that money talking about the Australian study that showed drinking orange juice cuts the risk of mouth, larynx, and stomach cancers by 50%? Why emphasize the idea that drinking OJ is the enemy of several wildly successful weightloss plans? Stupid, stupid, stupid!!

I think oranges are fine to eat on any diet, even Atkins and SBD, as long as you don't over do it. Orange juice, is another matter. I think mothers who are feeding their kids tons of fruit juices are not doing them a service.

I wonder if Florida will start issuing tickets to people on diets.

Federal judge rules part of Patriot Act unconstitutional

Monday, January 26, 2004 Posted: 3:11 PM EST (2011 GMT)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/26/p...t.ap/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A federal judge has declared unconstitutional a portion of the USA Patriot Act that bars giving expert advice or assistance to groups designated non-U.S. terrorist organizations.

The ruling marks the first court decision to declare a part of the post-September 11 anti-terrorism statute unconstitutional, said David Cole, a Georgetown University law professor who argued the case on behalf of the Humanitarian Law Project.

In a ruling handed down late Friday and made available Monday, U.S. District Judge Audrey Collins said the ban on providing "expert advice or assistance" is impermissibly vague, in violation of the First and Fifth Amendments.

John Tyler, the Justice Department attorney who argued the case, had no comment and referred calls to the department press office in Washington. A message left there was not immediately returned.

The case before the court involved five groups and two U.S. citizens seeking to provide support for lawful, nonviolent activities on behalf of Kurdish refugees in Turkey.

The Humanitarian Law Project, which brought the lawsuit, said the plaintiffs were threatened with 15 years in prison if they advised groups on seeking a peaceful resolution of the Kurds' campaign for self-determination in Turkey.

The judge's ruling said the law, as written, does not differentiate between impermissible advice on violence and encouraging the use of peaceful, nonviolent means to achieve goals.

"The USA Patriot Act places no limitation on the type of expert advice and assistance which is prohibited and instead bans the provision of all expert advice and assistance regardless of its nature," the judge said.

Cole declared the ruling "a victory for everyone who believes the war on terrorism ought to be fought consistent with constitutional principles."

Well I was talking about FRESH SQUEEZED orange juice--HEAVENLY!

Related article:

WFTV.com

Florida Considers Anti-Low-Carb Campaign To Increase OJ Sales

POSTED: 5:04 PM EST February 19, 2004


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The Florida Citrus Commission is considering trying a new ad campaign to battle a three-year decline in orange juice sales.

Most Florida oranges are made into juice. Sales have been going down, and experts blame it largely on the popularity of diets like Atkins and the South Beach Diet.

The Richards Group handles advertising for the Citrus Commission. It's proposing a new, six million dollar ad campaign to "poke fun at the logic" of the low-carb diets. For instance, someone would be shown frying bacon, then pouring the leftover grease in a juice glass and asking if it's more healthy than orange juice.

The Florida Department of Agriculture says something has to be done to get people drinking orange juice again.

But some members of the House and Senate Agriculture committees are concerned that going negative could result in a backlash against the citrus industry by those who follow the popular diets.

The head of the Florida Citrus Commission says the department will look closely at the proposed campaign before deciding whether to move forward. Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press.

Another related article:
DENMARK/USA: Danisco develops low-carb orange juice

February 18, 2004
Source: just-food.com

Danish food ingredients firm Danisco has developed a low-carbohydrate alternative to orange juice.

The company said low carbohydrate diets, increasingly popular in the US, have contributed to consistently declining orange juice sales the past three years.

In response, Danisco has created an orange juice alternative using the company's citrus flavours and ingredients. The product contains one-third less carbohydrates than regular orange juice but delivers the same nutrients and taste, Danisco said.