Hi everyone,
I was wondering who L/Cs and ECA stacks and do you find it works/or helps with weight loss?
...I read in one of Dr. Atkin's books that ephedrine can increase insulin levels and this should be avoided; however, I have continued to use it with success....Pls. no lectures here, I do stick with a very low dose and cycle on and off it....

I would appreciate any input

I also like to use an ECA stack, although I do take weekends off. Unfortunately, I have just about run out of the ephedra and I know GNC doesn't carry it...in fact, I overheard the manager at GNC on the phone telling someone they wouldn't find it anywhere as it was pulled from the market. Can anyone verify this? Where are you getting yours?

Anyway...back to your post...I was skeptical and nervous about using an ECA stack until I started reading that huge thread in the exercise forum. There was so much info there and so many links to more info that it answered a lot of my questions.

Anyway...please let me know where you are getting yours cuz I need some more

L

Actually, I live in Canada and was able to purchase mine at "Nutrition House" and also "GNC"...I also heard we would not be able to purchase it anymore...I have a big bottle of it and got it 2 mos. ago.....hmmm...I think I'll call around though and stock up! Big congrats on your weight loss and thank you for your input
Jess

Ephedrine can affect several mechanisms in the body which are counterproductive to weight lossif it is taken for a long period of time. Insulin is one of them, cortisol is another.

ECA is everyone's informed choice and while I like to take it periodically to help me break through weight loss plateaus when I'm on a cutting cycle, I'm sure you are aware that some people seem to have had side effects from taking it. Probably a good idea to have a cardiovascular checkup before you start.

I use it for a few days at a time and then take a few days off. I try to never take it right before exercise, but that's just my personal opinion.

I have been taking NON EPHADRINE Xenadrine EFX and it has helped with the appetite suppression and energy level but I have seen no weight loss (added) with taking this product. I have been taking this for 2 weeks now and will continue to do so since I am in a kind of "plateau" since June.

I'd be interested on knowing if anyone found taking a non-ephadrine based diet suppliment has had any "added" success and or distress?

Thanks for your input guys...I take ephedrine right before my cardio and it really helps me...also with suppressing my appetite...I am leary of buying pills w/o the ephedrine b/c I am just don't believe there is any energy boosting formula w/o it...I was wondering about Lean System 7 and wether or not it really works. Anyone know?
Thanks,
Jess

I have tons of energy with the non-ephedra pills combined with LC.... Actually too much at times.

I used to get these ABB Speed Stacker drinks when I went to the gym. (2carbs=D, Ephedra and Caffene) The serving size was 1 bottle, but I'd only drink like 2/3 or 1/2 at a time, 3 or 4 days a week. I lost a few pounds and I definitley had more energy.. I got high off it, felt like I was taking speed. lol.

Just went to GNC to buy some xenadrine w/ephedra (i've taken it in the past - before starting atkins) and the guy said they're not making it any more. But he recommended "Stacker 2" and it contains ephedra. You're supposed to take 1 of these yellow pills after a meal......I'm a little nervous about taking them... Anyone ever try them? 1 capsule has 25 mg ephedra. I dont remember whether xenadrine had more or less.

wow, surprised you even found a product with ephedra...I thought they were banned. I would not take them....one of my co-workers (34 yrs old) swears that they were the cause of her mini-stroke (i.e. she just came back to work). Please be careful...

Merry Mash, I take Stacker 3 W/ Ephredrine..it helps tremendiosly with the energy.

I took Stacker 2 on and off for years with good success combined with the WW diet. After my Second daughter, I just went on Stacker 3 W/ Eph as it was the newest thing out.

I am taking an ECA Hydroxandrine...

I still am losing weight consisently and I have no sugar cravings (but most likely its probrably just me, since I have been taking a ECA or something similar on or off for a couple of years)

Basically, if you can do without, then why use it?

Jess
Did you ever get a Definitive answer on the eca stack effects on insulin. I have used the home made atack in the past and am thinking of using it again but dont want to mess with my insulin
Rick I allso live in Canada near Vancouver