Thanx for the answers. For the carbolite bar I ate a bar today and now I feel guilty. For some reason I cannot get into that hidden carbs counter to check certain foods. What things should I be looking for that may give me an indication that there may be hidden carbs? I use aoltv, does anyone know if that could be a reason that I cant get in there? If so what do I need to do so that I can go in there? sabrina