Hello all:

I was wondering about removing unwanted fats from the LC plan.
Mostly like skin off chicken and fat rind of red meats. I don't eat large portions but is a palm size piece of steak what the good Dr. considers a serving?

Thanks in advance:
Loribell

Hi Loribell:

Personally, I don't enjoy eating the skin and rind. Ever since I was a kid. Furthermore, if you are eating conventional meats (as opposed to organic), the toxins get stored in the fat (and liver). Not an issue for most people though.

I don't think it's a big issue as long as you make sure you are eating enough fat. You will need to be a little more diligent about adding fat into your foods. Log your food onto fitday.com and make sure you are getting about approx 65-75% fat. You'll need a scale though. The best gift for myself was a digital postal scale (from Business Depot). It made life so much easier.

For you, why is the fat "unwanted"? You might want to clarify that. If you are concerned about fats, check out the following link:

Know Your Fats

As I've mentioned on another thread, LA Weighloss program is a low fat, low carb program which works wonders for many people. I personally couldn't stick to it because I was only allowed 1 tsp. of oil per day aside from what was already in the meats, but for the 2 weeks that I've stuck to it, I lost 10 pounds. But then again, I've been on Atkins for 16 days and lost 11 pounds.

For the first 3 days, you're allowed unlimited meats except for pork, 2 eggs, and all the green veggies you can eat. You're also allowed to use unlimited amount of oil/butter for these 3 days. You must eat 2 oranges a day and drink at least 48oz. of water a day.

After that, you're allowed to have:
1 fat, 1 dairy, 1/4 tsp. Mortons lite salt & 64oz. or water a day plus:

for breakfast:
2 fruit
1 protein

for lunch:
1 protein
1 vegetable
1 fruit
1 starch

for dinner:
2 proteins
2 vegetables
1 starch

serving size for dairy:
skim milk 4 oz.
reduced fat cheese 1 oz.
non-fat yogurt 6 oz.

Fruits:
Apple 1 small
apricots 3 medium
blackberries 1/2 cup
blueberries 1/4 cup
cantaloupe 1/8 lg.
cherries 9 med.
cranberries 1 cup
grapefruit 1/2 med.
green grapes 10
honeydew 1/2 cup
kiwi 1 med.
lemon 1 small
lime 1 med.
Nectarine 1 med.
orange 1 small
papaya 1/2 cup
peach 1 small
fresh pineapple 3/4 cup
plum 1 med.
raspberries 1 cup
strawberries 12 small
tangerines 1 small
watermelon 1 cup

protein :
all meats (no beef or pork), 5 oz. before cooking

Three times a week, you can have in the place of dairy:
4 oz. cottage cheese

twice a week, but not 2 days in a row substitute for protein:
beef 3 1/2 oz.

once a week substitute for protein:
pork, tuna, or salmon, 5 oz. before cooking

You're allowed up to 6 whole eggs per week or 12 egg whites.

Vegetables:
any greeen vegetables count as 1 serving
others are 1/2 cup per serving

Starches:
diet bread 1 slice
melba toast (unseasoned) 2 slices
rice cake 1
bran 2 tbsp.

twice a week substitute for starch:
baked potato 1/2 small
brown rice 1/2 cup cooked
corn tortillas 1/2 6" diameter
no sugar cereal 1/2 cup
plan oatmeal 1/2 cup cooked

Once a week but not on the same day as beef or limited starches:
bagel 1/2 small
corn, peas, pasta, or white rice 1/2 cup cooked
Matzo 1/2
fat & sugar free ice cream 1/2
frozen yogurh, fat & sugar free 1/2 cup

I don't know if this will help or not, but one of my neighbors is on this program now, and she's lost a lot of weight.

Thanks Yaseruzo:

Is there a book or site that follows up on the LA Weighloss program. My husband is doing Atkins as well and finds it a bit too restictive,( mind you he has lost 15lbs in 5 weeks) the Weighloss seems like something he might like. I too have lost weight, 10lbs in two weeks but since then its been slow, I'm following Atkins to the letter and biking 10ks everyday but have only droped three pound in the past three weeks. Thought maybe I was consuming to much fat from protien and was looking at cutting back on the obvious fats. As for water I drink twice if not three times the required amount. Just grasping at straws I guess.

Thanks again:

Loribell

Patience dear girl, patience!

You've been exercising, building muscle. Don't look at that darned scale! They are notoriously inaccurate. Take your body measurements. Go to someone qualified to do calipers and get your body fat measured.

How are your clothes fitting? How do you feel? Don't be so concerned about losing as making this WOE something that you can live with. Your body will also go through periods when you don't lose. I really notice that winter is the hardest time for me.

The weight didn't come on overnight. For every pound I gain, it takes me 10 days to lose. And I can gain 5 pounds in one day!

You are doing great. Try posting your menus to see if there is anything that can be adjusted. I personally found that increasing fat helped me lose weight. I strive for 100 grams/day. Each person is different.

Hi Loribell

Unfortunately, there is nothing online on LA Weightloss. It's like Nutrisystem in that you have to visit their office once or twice a week to weigh in and buy their protein bars and soups. They charge like $7USD per pound lost up front. I was stupid and joined a few years ago and only lost 10 pounds and gave up. I did find the packet that they gave me when I started which tells you everything I told you plus a few more tips. I think for a man, they wanted them to eat about 1700 calories a day by increasing the size of their protein (like 4 oz of chicken to 6 oz. and so forth). If you want, I can send the packet to you

Aside from the need for fuel in low carb eating, animal fats are an important component of your body's needs. Rather than get intop the whole discussion, I suggest reading Dr. Mary Enig's "Know Your Fats". She is an example of a nutritionist who understands that the current food pyramid is nonsense. You can some of her work on the www.westonaprice.org site. Nyah Levi