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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 06:52
sandylevit sandylevit is offline
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Default Yom Kippur and the fast

I have found that with this WOL, when I do get hungry, I get hungrier then
ever before, sometimes where the hunger pains really hurt. I really dont
know how I am going to fast on yom kippur.

I have thought about adding a moderate amount of carbs for dinner
the night before (not sugar though), thinking that it might help me
do the fast, and worse case, give me the bloats that would make me
feel bad and not want to eat. I have always been told that the meal
before the fast should contain both protein and carbs to help with
the fasting.

I know that I would not go back to carbing by this one meal, and I am
close to my goal, so not concerned there, but is this really going to
make the fasting easier.? THe only issue that upsets me is that on
Yom kippur you cannot even drink water... That is going to be hard. If
I drink tons the night before, I will be up all night peeing! ARGGGG

I am just griping here... I have never not done the fast, but I also have
never been on a WOL like this. Not sure how to proceed. I know the
hardfast ones here will say "dont do it", but I am not sure from a pre fast
scientific standpoint, what is best.

To break the fast I will keep it LC

sandy
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 07:16
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Personally, I never fasted... I'm not too religious either... but my blood sugar was all over the place before Atkinsing it. My hunger/cravings controlled me... I'm not suffering from as many cravings anymore, but I do get ravenous too.

I have NEVER even heeded the water rule.. nor do i know anyone who does. You will dehydrate and if getting sick for a day out of the year is supposed to make everything "all better," then... actually, I won't go there. Anyway, I say drink water on Yom Kippur... and if you get really hungry, maybe mentally allow yourself to just do a liquid fast? Sure, Atkins shakes may not count as real fasting... but if you get out of control hungry... then you're not really EATING, right?

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Be careful it doesn't make you sick!

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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 08:05
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I think eating a load of fats before fasting would help you endure better than any carbs which could send your insulin and blood sugar levels all over the place. Some very fatty meat or a salad swimming in olive oil maybe!
I am not Jewish so I son't feel qualified to offer you advice about fasting but I think it would be better for your bodies sake not to give up water.
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 08:20
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This fasting is part of your faith and is a fast for god. What is one day for all of gods goodness in our lives.
It supposed to be tough. You can talk to your rabbi if you have health problems that fasting will harm.
I would have a health fatty meal at the last possible moment. I can remember my friends father passing out around dinner time. He was obsessed with food and had himself in such a tissy that he fainted!!!
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 09:02
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I dont have any health problems, and I know it is suppose to be hard for
one day i.e. we are suppose to just concentrate on our devotion to him.
No matter what, I do follow it based on my religious beliefs, but this
morning someone mentioned that a mixed meal would be better before
a fast. If a high fat meal is better, then I will do that. I have just noticed
that with LC'ing when I get hungry I get hungrier then I used to get.

Sandy
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 09:13
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You know, sometimes I think that we are so concerned about our eating habits that the REALLY important things get overlooked in an effort to stay on our WOE. I think when it comes to religion, the dictates of our religious traditions supercede Atkins, or whatever program we are on. It is a matter of priority - and of giving deference to those things in life which give our life true meaning. And BTW, hopefully, whatever gives our life true meaning ISN"T food!

If your religious tradition calls for you to fast, then YOU FAST. Do what you have to do before and after, (and I'm not trying to sound harsh or judgmental) but using a WOE as an excuse to possibly wiggle out of one's religious obligations seems a bit skewed on the priorities. The priority is what our individual traditions tell us is the Godly path, not carb counts or insulin spikes.

This reminds me of the thread on counting carbs in communion bread/wafers. Maybe it's just me, but I really think that sometimes there are profound things in life that are above/outside our normal lives, and the priority should be making our WOE conform to our spiritual needs. Think of it as a big dose of spiritual food - that best of all is carb-free, and profoundly good for us!
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 11:19
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I have found that with this WOL, when I do get hungry, I get hungrier then ever before, sometimes where the hunger pains really hurt. I really dont
know how I am going to fast on yom kippur.

This is what I see as your real issue, not trying to get some wiggle room on dictates of faith. I, too, suffer from unbelievable hunger pains since I took up low carbing.

Generally, I quiet them with some water, but on Yom Kippur, even that isn't an option. Are there some traditional activities that might take your mind off the discomfort?

Another thing, I always notice that I suffer more severe hunger pains on a morning after I eat a large evening meal. I find that the hunger pain is more manageable if I eat smaller meals throughout the day, so that might be a wiser option than a full out food fest before you fast. I would, however, agree with those before me that focused on you getting a satisfying amount of quality fats and proteins.

The day is going to be rough (by design! ), but preplanning and putting your mental focus elsewhere might make the fast less physically painful.

Lisa
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 11:28
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I thought the husband asking his wife how many carbs were in a communion wafer funny. I'm sure they would have taken it anyway regardless, but just asking made me laugh.
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Old Fri, Sep-26-03, 11:34
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lisa,

you nailed it... i.e. I was just looking for the best advice before the fast to what to eat, as I was getting conflicting advice.

thanks!
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