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Old Thu, Sep-19-02, 11:36
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I copied the following FAQ from the Atkins site:

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wifefor30yrs: Is it okay to subtract the fiber count from the carbohydrate count of an item, and is this both soluble and insoluble fiber?

Dr. Atkins: There is no way to be certain, from a label, which fiber is digestible or non-digestible. A rough estimate, however, is that 50% of the fiber grams may be deducted from the total carbohydrate count. With Atkins products, we've netted out the non-digestible (insoluble) fiber, which doesn't have an impact on blood sugar or insulin. You'll see it called "Net Atkins Carbs" on our packaging.


This is the first I've heard that all fiber is not the same. Most sites I've read state that all fiber is not digested. Others say contrary. I've read Atkins, and both books by the Eades and don't remember reading anything about this soluble/insoluble fiber distinction.

This ECC thing is turning into a nightmare. Is it already substrated or isn't it... are there hidden carbs.... is it soluble or insoluble fiber.....

Anyone have a link that sets all the ECC rules out in easy, clear, concise English?

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Hi Wanda,

I just replied to your question about soluble and insoluble fiber in this thread.

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Hi Karen:

I used to use the USDA database on their own site, but haven't been able to get onto it lately. I thought there was something wrong with the site. Thanks for clarifying that the online Carb Counter from this site uses the USDA database. Unfortunately, I was querying soy bean varieties and there aren't any listings for what I was looking for.

I normally don't "sweat the small stuff" like this, but became increasingly frustrated with conflicting and vast amounts of information about fiber. However, I never found anything really concise. It's always been a matter of simply subtracting the fiber from the carbs for me. The ECC hasn't been an issue for me because I just eat whole foods. Pretty much, the only thing I eat processed are the low carb tortillas, and they have the ECC specifically stated on the package. In fact, to be honest, I don't even count my carbs formally since weightloss is not my goal. I keep a food diary and my body has learned what the best amount of carbs for me is.

However, I got curious about significant differences for carb counts in soy beans (which I guess are mostly soluble fiber) and went looking for info. That's when I ran into all these differing opinion/rules about ECC.

So I think you are right, don't frant about it. I ate the black soy beans yesterday and it didn't kill me. In fact, it was the only time in awhile that I didn't begin feeling hungry shortly after my meal. After trying the LC tortillas, I realized that I do better if I have a high fiber/low carb meal, which meant black soy beans seemed to fit the bill nicely even though I have complicated my diet to an extent. So I will practice what I "preach" and follow what my body told me.

Thanks again for your help,
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