Those last three posts kept me sane Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!….
I would like to answer some of the “opposite side people”. This might upset you a little but hopefully not to much and I do not know any of you personally so this is in no way a personal attack I am only making generalized statements about what you had typed and not try to assume what I am about to write is true for you but merely a response to your quotes. The initial post was also a generalized and in some cases “Not to be Take literally”. I apologies in advance if I ruffle feathers or sting the feelings a bit.
But then again this could all be BS and I might just be emotionally stunted and you ladies around here might need to straighten me out a bit
This is long but want to cover everything up to this point. Only read if you are boared and have nothing else better to do
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Originally Posted by Lisa N
In an ideal (and safer) world, this would be right on the money. However, at least where I live, 4 young girls have been abducted, sexually assaulted and murdered within the past year...all within a 5 mile radius of where I live
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If I had 2 girls and lived in this area I would move. If money or other issues kept this from happening I would beg barrow or steal to get my kids out of there as soon as possible and I would have to agree with you that there is NO WAY my kid would leave the house accept with me!
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Originally Posted by Lisa N
she was diagnosed with ADD and started taking medication for it. Now, one of the side effects of this medication is loss of appetite for a few weeks ……….It took some work, but she is now back to eating normally and maintaining a healthy weight, but it just goes to show you that it's not always the parents 'putting kids on diets'.
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I understand what you are saying here and that is why I had said
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Originally Posted by Primate
Now there are circumstances where yes a child needs to go on a diet such as health risks or a chemical type of thing
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Originally Posted by Juli G
I think its a good idea for parents to step in. Now I'm not talking about putting heavy kids on Atkin's or strict diets. I'm talking about teaching them good eating habits. For instance: instead of sugar laiden cereal, give them some fresh fruit for breakfast.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. If they learn good habits it will carry on with them through their life and hopefully they wont struggle with weight issues throughout life. I did say
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Originally Posted by Primate
We get fat and lazy and they don’t learn good habits and end up the same way.
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Originally Posted by kwikdriver
I'm a little annoyed by the constant focus on exercise in this thread. I was a fat baby, a fat kid, and grew into a fat adult. I was also an extremely active and athletic kid, and was athletic well into adulthood. It didn't matter.
Exercise, or lack of it to be exact, isn't the problem. Our food supply is. Lack of knowledge about nutrition is. The problem isn't lazy bodies, but lazy minds.
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You need exercise to be healthy. Healthy doesn’t = skinny. While I agree that in some cases exercise alone will not make you thin if combined with GOOD EATING HABITS not a diet, your child will in most cases see a reduction in weight. I played football from the time I was 6 until college and some of the most athletic guys I new were well over 300lbs. Genetics can play a role in how much weight you have. There is nothing wrong with this. Some people not matter how much exercise and good eating habits they partake in will always be big.--- Love the quote in your signature by the way I laughed for a while then sent it to a friend of mine
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Originally Posted by Lisa N
Primate, the fact is that most kids won't 'grow out of it' unless there is some sort of intervention. Obese children are far more likely to become obese adults than normal weight children.
It sounds good to say, "just love them as they are" but I wouldn't apply that reasoning if my kids were sick or hurt as a rationale to ignore the problem and do nothing about it. The question in my mind is do we love them enough to make the effort to change what they are eating and then put up with the whining without caving in when you tell them 'no' to daily unhealthy food?
Junk food on demand does not = love, people.
Changing a child's diet for the better without destroying their self-image in the process is quite possible...it's all in how you present it to the child.
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Lisa, you appear to be my Lex Luther in this post
But that is good. It makes for a good conversation. Please read my post again I think you missed some of my points. If you just skim it or don’t read all of it you will easily disagree with me. Once again I am not saying feed your kids junk. I am saying teach them good habits and keep them from being stagnate. Don’t let the bad habits we have adopted rub off on your kids. Not you personally but that is just what I was saying in my original post.
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Originally Posted by Jiggerz
I guess it was the highly accusatory (that a word?) statements at the beginning of your post that started the smoldering thoughts. I don't want her to go through junior high and highschool hating herself, getting picked on and ignored because of her weight.... that turns into self hatred because you believe everyone hates you to treat you that way. (That's how I felt anyway, maybe I'm the only one that every felt it?) So......no, I won't just ignore it......
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First off –Never backspace and reframe from saying something. If I upset you, made you mad or you disagree let it out. There is nothing wrong with unloading on “ME” if I evoked an emotion good or bad it is a discussion and I promise I can handle it. Besides Lisa doesn’t mind doing it
JK Lisa…
If your child is a genius and cured cancer kids would pick on her, If she is a fantastic athlete they would be jealous and say things and if she is overweight they will pick on her. That is kids. Pretty people get talked about and stereo typed by ugly people, Smart people talked about by dumb people and Overweight people get talked about by skinny people and vise versa. This will happen forever even into adult hood. I am sure you do these things below but I just saying them as advice for those who do not. Teach them healthy habits, get them out playing (exercising), Praise the positive things they do and point out the great features they have. Comfort them and let them know as best you can that they are ok and people can just be mean, Correct the bad habits indirectly if it is what they eat then remove the soda and German chocolate cake (mmmmmmm German Chocolate Cake) from the house.
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Originally Posted by mio1996
I felt the same way when I first read Primate's post. It seemed that he was calling any parent an idiot who would watch what their kids eat.
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No I was calling people who put their kids on diets without it being medically necessary idiots. If the parents bad habits and lack of interest in the child’s life causes a him or her to lack exercise and good eating habits then they are absolute idiots. Seems like in todays society people treat their kids like dogs. Give them some toys and a bowl of food then forget about them. Not saying you do it but, that was a point I was trying to get accrossed in not so many words in my original post.
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Listen when you have kids you make a choice to bring them into this world, you make a commitment to love them, give them the knowledge and tools to survive, and care for and protect them to the best of your ability. Laziness, media hype, and the inability to properly care for them is not an excuse to allow your child to become overweight then throw them on a diet and make them feel like a failure because you did not do your job. If this statement makes you mad and you feel like I am picking on you directly this is a sign. You know if you did or are doing something wrong. Take responsibility for your mistake and change it. Stop being a victim. It is easy to blame it on someone or something else. Teach your child something called character and self respect. Show them it is ok to be wrong as long as your correct it. We learn by failing. Failure is wonderful since it teaches you what not to do.
Don’t treat your kid like a little adult. THEY ARE NOT. As mature as they may seem they are still kids. They should not stress over weight or what other adults think. They need to be shown and not told what is right. You can not say don’t eat sugar then ask them to go get you a Pepsi. Teach by example! They need to know and have confidence that what mom and/or dad says and does is right. They need to have confidence that there parents will make it alright. They need to know they are loved and what others say does not matter. It is what they think and feel about themselves that is the most important.