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Old Wed, Oct-13-04, 13:36
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Default another absurd diet - just count bites!

this might make sense, if combined with low carb....

http://nypost.com/food/30202.htm


October 13, 2004 -- A NEW diet lets you eat whatever you want: pasta, pizza, even chocolate cake - but only 85 bites a day. Instead of counting carbs, calories or fat grams, dieters on this unorthodox new plan count chomps.

And a bite has to be a bite: You can't stuff your face like an acorn-packing squirrel.

"We try to back into teaching people how to eat well without focusing on good food and bad food," says Joan Breibart, a Pilates expert who created the buzzed-about new regimen along with dietitian and fellow Manhattanite Meredith Luce.

Breibart - who's never had a weight problem - aims to copy the behavior of stars like Jessica Simpson, Susan Sarandon and Dolly Parton, who say they can eat whatever they want because they do so in moderation.

"It's not what you eat, but how you eat," says Breibart. "You want to retrain your body, so you won't feel comfortable eating more."

If you follow the diet, she promises, "going to an all-you-can-eat buffet will be a waste of money."

Saxon Eldridge, a 25-year-old Manhattanite, took off nearly 30 pounds by counting bites.

"I was wary about the idea of eating anything I wanted, but I tried it," he says.

"At first, I concentrated and counted bites, but then it became second nature. It's not even a diet anymore. It's just portion control."

Under Breibart and Luce's 21-day plan (dietdirectives.com) dieters have two bigger, 18-22 bite meals and two 12-16 bite meals per day.

But you can't just have ice cream or macaroni and cheese - nor are you allowed snacks.

Meals must be balanced and could include a mix of eight bites of protein, six of grains or starches, six of vegetables or fruit and four of dessert (once a day).

"It's not about constantly putting stuff in your mouth," says Breibart. "The less you eat, the less hungry you are."

This diet -flying in the face of just about every other slimming plan - doesn't push exercise, either. That's because working out is often used as an excuse to overeat, Breibart contends.

"Most Americans aren't out running marathons or playing for the NFL," she says. "People are sedentary and lazy."

You can even drink alcohol - just no more than three glasses a week.

Breibart recommends people drink a liquid other than water at mealtime - such as a sports drink, flavored water, diet soda or even wine - which she says help digest food and raise blood sugar levels.

Water, she insists, is a no-no: Limit it to 10 ounces at a time, and only if you're really thirsty.

"If you're drinking more than 10 ounces of water at any one time, especially not in the context of a meal, you actually stimulate digestion," she explains.

That's a premise that Julie Upton, a registered dietitian and spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association, threw cold water on.

"There's no proof of that," she says. "Generally, let thirst be your guideline. If you're still thirsty at 10 ounces, drink more water."

Breibart, 63, doesn't count bites. A natural size 6, she's followed a moderate eating plan her entire life.

"Ultimately, your body will count food for you," she says. "Your body won't take food in."

Erica Morrell, the director of Sunny Girlfriends, a healing and wellness center, doubts the bite-size program will work for those with emotional eating problems - which covers a wide range of food addicts.

"People overeat to fill emotional spaces in their lives - maybe they're single and lonely, or lost their jobs," says Morrell.

"Those people will have a little taste of food and then will have to eat the whole plate. If you could just eat two bites, you wouldn't be overweight."

Upton is also skeptical about the whole bite-counting scheme.

"There's no study that says bites are correlated to weight loss," she says. "If it sounds gimmicky, it probably is."

However, she added, "If it makes you think about what you're eating, it could be a good thing."
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Old Wed, Oct-13-04, 20:13
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I barely know how to respond to the absurdity of this diet. At least the author noted, on several occasions, that this diet is proposed by a person who has never been overweight and therefore, obviously, doesn't have the same carb addiction as a large portion of our population. They call Atkins a "fad" diet??? No, no, THIS is a fad diet.
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Old Sat, Oct-16-04, 16:14
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So sports drinks (sugar water) are better than plain water, and water should be limited? That's insane.
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Old Sat, Oct-16-04, 16:31
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What an OCD nightmare!!!
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Old Sat, Oct-16-04, 16:37
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Yeah, and how is a "bite" defined? A forkfull, a mouthfull, or something else? If I knew I would be starving all day on this "diet" I would take the largest bites I could.


No thanks. I'll stick to what I'm doing. I like eating.

Joan
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Old Sat, Oct-16-04, 16:43
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Default I have another one..

That is sooo funny...It reminded me of a "diet" by a friend of mine.

Jokingly he said..."I have an idea for a diet...you eat whatever you want but you spit out every other bite after chewing it up; that way you'll get all the fun out of the food without actually eating as much"....

His diet CAN'T be far behind after this one..lol..

bob
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Old Tue, Nov-09-04, 12:10
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Default 85 bites

In July my doctor switched me to a low carb diet because I am hypoglycemic. This was hard, because I have always been addicted to candy and sweets. I have been following it since July, and I have not lost any weight. I am a member of TOPS, and I have 50 pounds to lose to get to my goal weight set by my doctor. I know what works for me, exercise. I just have very little time for it anymore. I started on this 85 bite thing two weeks ago. I know that I have portion control problems, and this sounded like a simple way to watch it. I have a little ticker that I use to count bites. And 85 bites may sound like it isn't much, but it really is enough. One of the benefits I found is that I don't want the donut in the lunchroom, because I don't want to waste bites on it. If I eat that, then I will feel really drained and sluggish and need to eat something with protein, so there are even more bites. I do get hungry during the day, which I didn't before, but I'm not starving, and I think I should feel hungry between meals a little bit. I have even been doing well enough to save some bites for desert in the evenings, I love Ben & Jerry's Carb Smart ice cream. I don't agree with everything in this diet, I still drink my water and I do exercise. For me, this is more about portion control and not snacking during the day. The first week, I lost 2.5 pounds, and the second week I lost 4 pounds. I did discuss what I was going to try doing with my doctor also, and she had no problem with it. She did want me to keep exercising though, which I am. I am happy with this diet so far, and every time I lose it shows me that it is working. If you try to do this and only eat sweets, you probably won't lose weight. If you look at the website of this plan, it says that you still have to eat good, but you have more allowances. It's about portion control and realizing exactly what goes into your body every day.
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Old Tue, Nov-09-04, 12:31
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The old-time radio comedian, Fred Allen, used to talk about the 19 day diet. If you ate four meals a day, you could get through it in 14 days.
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Old Tue, Nov-09-04, 12:47
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This one is just too funny! I could just see my family taking those bites! Espically my son! They can take some really big ones. I've actually seen my son take a BITE of a pie...it was 1/4 of the pie!

Renee
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Old Tue, Nov-09-04, 12:47
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This sounds like a great diet whether you are anorexic or big. You can take itty bitty bites and starve yourself to death, or you can take great huge bites and stay fat. Geez.

I beleive Dr. Atkins for a few reasons. Mainly, his plan is based on actual, measurable science regarding what your body does with sugars. He was getting fat himself and needed to combat that. I have never felt better in my life than now, in my low carb world. This WOE is easy and measurable in so many ways.

Besides, what is a bite? Is one ounce of protein a bite? Is each forkfull a bite? This is not truly a measurable system. I like to cut my food up small because I enjoy it more and I have a fairly small mouth. I think I would not be able to follow this plan. The potential for cheating is too high in terms of biting off more than I can chew.
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Old Tue, Nov-09-04, 13:55
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This is something akin to the No-S diet that someone posted on yesterday. Although the counting of bites is more anal than just limiting yourself to one plate of food.
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