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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 11:23
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I perfer to make my own. Yummy!

I love peanut butter and chocolate--probably my fav combo of food!!! These are pretty tasty!! The recipe says it makes 10 but I can get at the most 8 out of the ingredients. I only make 6 now so they are a pretty good size!

Peanut Butter Cups
1 stick unsalted butter (I use salted!)
1 oz unsweetened chocolate
1/3 c Splenda
1 T heavy cream
4 T peanut butter
chopped walnuts (I don't use these)

Melt butter, chocolate, and Splenda in the microwave. Stir in cream and peanut butter. Line 10 (or in my case 6) muffin tins with cupcake papers. Place nuts in the bottom of each tin. Divide chocolate mixture between the tins. Freeze until firm. These need to be stored in the freezer because they melt quick. You can eat them right out of the freezer.
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 11:40
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ooooo might try that one!
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 11:41
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My hidden carb radar went on alert status when I read the nutritional info. I'm wondering if these really have one carb and not 10 per package.

Inulin (fiber) is listed as 9 grams.

Is this fiber that has been added to the chocolate so that we see the 9 g and automatically subtract it for our net carb count? If it is, then it cannot be subtracted from the total carb count. Only fiber that is inherent to the food can be deducted for a net carb count.

If the fiber ALL cames from the peanuts, then we're fine. If it's been added to fool us, then it's one of those too good to be true scenarios.



Huh??? If inulin (a fiber) is an ingredient in teh candy bar...it IS part of the total carb count for that particular food... and can be subtracted just as if it had been "inherent to the food"... If they added 9 MORE grams, it would raise the total carb count by 9, but could still be subtracted.....
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 12:10
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I haven't tried those - I guess I like my Russel Stover Sugar Free bite sized candies (to ensure I don't overeat). I hardly eat them though, cos, well... You all know - but the occasional bit is ok. (c: I actually just tried one of those sugar free Nestle Crunch Bars and it tasted the same. It was good. (c:
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 12:10
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Oh yeh, those peanut butter cups keep me stepping too. I had one left in my desk and I ate it this morning, I had an early breakfast so I got hungry before lunch, which I usually don't. Anyway I just had to go. I didn't put two and two together until I read this thread. Yep. That's what caused it. I won't be buying any more of them Peg
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 12:13
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I count carbs from sugar alcohols! So I would subtract the fiber from the total carb, and that would be the carb count for two cups.

I thought it was established that SA grams count, even if they have less of an impact on blood sugar.

Is this not true?
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 12:35
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I had one awhile ago and now I am feeling sooooo sleepy.
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I count carbs from sugar alcohols! So I would subtract the fiber from the total carb, and that would be the carb count for two cups.

I thought it was established that SA grams count, even if they have less of an impact on blood sugar.

Is this not true?



Depnds on which expert/friend/book you ask. They tirck is to detrimine if they effect you or not. Since they are digested slower, for many ppl they pass them out undigested and they dont count... but for some ppl they dont pass them out fast enough, and they do count... others are in the middle and its only partly digested so that only some count...
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 15:30
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Sugar alcohols from Erythritol don't count, the others do... that's why I stick with Z-Carb.

http://www.eridex.com/html/nutrition.html
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 17:35
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Potatofree, in an ethical and perfect low carb world, the consumer would be treated with dignity and respect. Customer relations would be prized above the bottom line. We are not yet living in that perfect low carb world.

Sometimes the fiber inherent to the food has already been subtracted by the manufacturer. Added fiber is then put in the product and listed on the nutritional information as the fiber count. When that is done, the consumer is at a disadvantage. The net then is not the true net. This also works with the correct total carb count. If a candy bar comes in at 20 total carbs with, let's say <1 g fiber inherent to the food, that does not make me want to buy it. If the nutritional information shows 15 g of fiber and some SA's, then the product looks more low carb friendly.

The bottom line for the consumer is to be able to tell if the 15 g of fiber have been added to the product in order to make the numbers look good. If it was added, then it will not affect the original 20 total carbs. You would still have those to deal with.

Until the FDA regulates carbs, all kinds of deceptive practices are allowed to flourish. I do not suggest that this is the case with these PB cups. I am just wondering if the fiber was added to the candy because it was identified by name as a fiber. When I buy nuts, for example, there is just a listing for fiber, not fiber by any other name.
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 17:42
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And sometimes the toal carb count on a label for nuts is already "minus" the fiber. Check the number of threads where people think walnuts are carb-free, or even that certain foods have "negative carbs" because of it. Labels in the UK seem to ALL be this way... Labelling glitch, or plot by the big nut companies?
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 18:34
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Dawna, I have to admit I am confused. Why does it matter if the fibre is added in by the manufacturer? Isn't the "subtracting" effect of fibre due to its combination with the carbs in your GI tract (meaning, the fibre keeps some of the carbs from being absorbed)?

But I agree, "added-in" fibre seems so unnatural. And for me, low-carb is all about natural/unprocessed.
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Old Wed, Sep-08-04, 18:42
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I can hardly wait till we get them in Canada.
Low carb Reece's PB cups are proof of a benevolent and loving deity.
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Old Thu, Sep-09-04, 10:26
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Hifive, fiber passes through the body undigested so we're allowed to subtract it from the food it comes from and only from the food it comes from.

If I understand you correctly, then I could keep eating all the things Dr. Atkins has me giving up as long as I take lots of fiber supplements along with the carbs. I could be wrong, but I don't think that's how it works.
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Old Thu, Sep-09-04, 10:56
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No, fiber supplements don't CANCEL OUT the carbs in the food. For example, if you ate a cupcake contailing 60g of carbs, none of them fiber, but took a 40 gram supplement of fiber... the TOTAL carbs for the snack would be 100 grams. 100 grams, minus the fiber, still leaves you with 60 grams of carbs. NOT an acceptible choice...

Combining those 40 grams INTO the cupcake batter would have the same effect of raising the TOTAL carbs, but still wouldn't have any effect on the NET carbs.
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