Wed, Jan-28-04, 22:10
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Senior Member
Posts: 286
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Plan: ex-atkins
Stats: 175/105/115
BF:
Progress: 117%
Location: Australia
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Well, this thread has been a breath of freash air.
I pretty much agree with the OP. I actually had a bit of a quiet rant about this in my journal recently - but I find it really disturbing sometimes the volume of ppl who find it neccessary 3 mths into the plan to still have an issue with carrots.... or as potatofree put it, scream at a noodle.
In fact, I was getting a bit angry at these boards for a while for the awful cultishness of it all...
I almost posted an angry rant (but restrained myself!) in a thread about using cream in coffee not milk... the sheer authritiveness of the person chastising the milk user! My personal opinion, is that at this point, I will take 2-3 carbs in milk in coffee rather then the calories in cream!
However, potatofree got it right I think -
>>>"Those who follow Atkins as written aren't "subsisting on 60 grams of carbs a day" rather, by the end of maintenance, finding the proper balance of "good" carbs as well as lowering the percent of fat proportionately as the carbs increase... isn't that precisely what you're advocating "instead" of Atkins?">>>
Yes, that is how I understand Atkins. But, by and large, that is not how ppl seem to follow Atkins on this board. Hardly anybody follows OWL even, instead they hang out on 20 carbs forever even if they don't have a massive amount to lose, and then develop some fear of going up... they don't know there CCL and are afraid of the concept. Then, with a few pounds to go things are reintroduced but rarely, it seems, are calories closely watched and fat watched unless there is a serious stalling problem. I don't count anything, but it seems pretty obvious that if I am eating 40-90 carbs a day coffee with milk is better then with cream.
And in fact, I eat pasta - I just don't consider it a main but a compliment to a protien/vege based meal... and in that regard, the 1/2 cup serving info, and the idea of learning serving sizes, is very true.
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