i really like the chocolate carb countdown

I always put the lid on the thermos. It's worked every time.. the only time it didn't work was when I used my own homemade yogurt as a starter culture - it works much faster than the commercial yogurts and after 8 hours I had a lump of cheese with a thermos full of whey on top. The other time I used my own it was only 2.5 hours and it was way overripe and too tart for my liking. I'm just careful to be gentlle stirring in the starter, and to not disturb the thermos as it's ripening.

Once I made it in a bunch of metal pots (no lids) with the oven on the lowest setting and the door open a crack. That made very mild smooth stuff

Meg