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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 17:24
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Plan: Muscle Centric
Stats: 238/152/160 Female 5'10"
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Progress: 110%
Location: UK
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(looks like a lot of us just didn't update that profile)

OK, I admit I was someone who didn't - just too embarassed I guess
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  #167   ^
Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 17:28
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Plan: No gluten, CAD
Stats: 196.0/158.5/149.0 Female 62
BF:36/29.0/27.3
Progress: 80%
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Karen Lynne,
I have been using holistic medicines from a German manufacturer called HEEL. I get them from my dr. The website is www.heelusa.com there is a book on the website you can download that will describe the appropriate one for liver. My results from these have been magnificent to decent.

I also have been drinking a tea I got at the healthfood store for liver function. I looked the ingredients, they are from Chinese medicine, I believe they were all from tree blossoms. I will post the name when I get home.

Are you actually allergic to grass or the pollen from grass? I am doing allergy testing right now. So far I've narrowed it down to the outdoors and it is much worse in Oct-Jan.

I'm back. The tea is by Traditional Medicinals, Everyday Detox promotes Healthy Liver Function. If you do a search on the web they have a site that will tell you the ingredients.

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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 19:21
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Posts: 1,767
 
Plan: My own
Stats: 36/23.42/10 Female 64  inches
BF:160/151/120
Progress: 48%
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Hi all....enjoyed hanging with and starting the Kiss with you all...thanks for your support I hope the FFP and KISS plans work for you..

With me I found I kept "modifying" KISS to get my fats up as I was seriously craving and hungry ...even with the glutamine...and got tired of the olive oil...and was just feeling out of energy...

Im back on induction and experimenting with coconut oil...and dropping weight ..so whatever gets us to goal right? hehe

Best of luck to all of you...in these two programs and beyond them, with the general lowcarbing and reaching your goal weights. It was nice meeting you all.

HugglesnMuahs,
Glim
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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 19:24
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mischa mischa is offline
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Posts: 55,817
 
Plan: SureSlim Wellness Clinic
Stats: 225.6/188.8/160 Female 5'8
BF:34%/24%/24%
Progress: 56%
Location: Victoria, BC
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I had a not so good FFP day...I was hungry all day and ate too much and things I should not have to. I list my food intake in my journal..well tomorrow we will do better

I hope you all had a great day

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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 20:11
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Posts: 2,019
 
Plan: The Zone, Fat Flush
Stats: 178.5/147.5/147.7 Female 64 inches
BF:more than enough
Progress: 101%
Location: El Cerrito, CA
Talking KIS Day 8

Well! Day 8 on KIS, and I'm down to 163 (that's 4.5 pounds lost in 8 days!). Also, we had Demi's meatballs and fried cabbage last night for dinner, it was VERY yummy! I think I'm going to fry more cabbage tonight, with my garlic stuffed chicken (I put about 20 cloves under the breast skin and roast it)
I also found mayo at Trader Joe's that has absolutely no sweetener of any kind in it, and no preservatives. The ingredients are very straight forward:
Expeller Pressed Canola oil
whole Eggs
Apple Cider Vinegar
Egg yolks
Water, Salt, Spices,
lemon juice concentrate...

Since I'm losing so nicely with just the olive oil right now, I think I'll stick with it for a while longer (a few weeks at least) and then try to sneak the mayo back in, although the chicken fat that Doreen suggested sounds v. good, and so that might carry me along until the end of the month.
I drink decaf green tea (also from Trader Joe's) for something warm in the morning, and it doesn't seem to be having any adverse effects, but I think caffeine at this point, would be a bad idea.
Missed Breakfast
Went out for lunch but had: Grilled Salmon and grilled veggies on sticks (mush, zucs red bell, carrots (just a few) and red onion)
Dinner: Roasted garlic clove chicken, fried cabbage (I'm hooked, Demi!) I just fry it in olive oil (what else?) (Hmmm, maybe I'll get some of the fat out of the chicken...) with red pepper flakes, so good.

Count me in on the "list of people too embarassed to change stats during weight gain".

jasmine

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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 22:16
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Plan: starting over.. again
Stats: 194/173/150 Female 4'11"
BF:
Progress: 48%
Location: duluth, mn
Unhappy guilty also...

...when i gained, i never changed the stat either....been at 175 for months.

i made it through my first day of kiss. so far so good, it was a pretty easy day. menu and breakdown in my journal.
my biggest concern is the bigC as it has been for the last 8months. i will load up on senokot and hope everything keeps moving.

i'm ready for tomorrow.

~catherine
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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 22:41
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 230/185/160 Female 5'7"
BF:
Progress: 64%
Location: New york State
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I made my fried turnips like hash browns for dinner tonite, I am so full, I'm not even looking for anything to munch on, wow, that was good and filling. try it folks. JUst put the turnip in the food processor with onion, then fry in olive oil til crispy, like hash browns. Oh-h-h-h heaven. chris
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Old Tue, Jan-06-04, 22:51
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Laczkoskie Laczkoskie is offline
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Posts: 172
 
Plan: Atkins, PP, locarb in general
Stats: 178/161/145
BF:
Progress: 52%
Location: Shamokin, Pa.
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Hey all this fat flush is doing wonders-- after two days of no cheat at all I weighed in at the doctors office at 167!!!! Morning of day one I was 175! That's 8 lbs of fluid!! Can that be possible. I weighed in 3 times- both before and after in disbelief! I couldn't believe I had gained that much over the holidays, nor could I believe the Dr. scale. I have a digital one & regular one at home. Oh well I'm not complaining!! A1C is coming down too from 7.2 to 6.9. It is getting there. Maybe after this flush I'll be under control!!! yeah yeah!!! Mary
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 07:58
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Plan: syndromeX
Stats: 231/220/150 Female 64
BF:
Progress: 14%
Location: South Carolina
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Nawchem - I'll look into the tea. Usually the tea doesn't bother me.

I'm actually allergic to the pollen and the grass itself. A few years ago, if I sat in grass, I would come away with welts where the grass blades hit my skin. THAT'S how allergic I was. I've been taking allergy shots for 4 yrs now, so I'm not as bad as I used to be. I don't want to experiment with the grass again, though! LOL! It made me so itchy, red and swelled up from where I touched the grass. I'm allergic to most things green, pollen, dust, mites, mold, oh gosh everything - BADLY. I'm NOT allergic to three trees - all pine-cedar type trees - so Xmas is okay for me. :-) I've had allergies all my life, but it took 34 yrs to get to an allergist. You have to look at the good side though, they'll be no grass stains on MY pants! Good luck on your allergy testing, Nawchem. Let us know how it turns out. Shots have been a godsend for me. I would be so sick all the time and I can't tell you how many times I've been on antibiotics for infections all my life. At least 4 times a year. Yeah, I know, candida I'm sure was growing rampid in my system. After I started shots, no more infections. I went through some Caprylic Acid for candida and it helped tremendously.

I think I'm going to try the BHB Plus and see if that helps. Also check out the tea you suggested. Thanks!

have a great day!
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 11:25
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Kristine Kristine is offline
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Plan: Primal/P:E
Stats: 171/145/145 Female 5'7"
BF:
Progress: 100%
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
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Hi everyone!

>>"(looks like a lot of us just didn't update that profile)"

Guilty!

>>"And I wasn't tempted a bit! It's currently in the freezer, because I may treat it to myself on my birthday."

WTG, Roz! Your DO needs a spanking!

>>"Im back on induction and experimenting with coconut oil...and dropping weight ..so whatever gets us to goal right? "

Hi Glim. Definitely. It's strange, but mixing up the fats can really make a difference. A while back, I "discovered" avocados and started having ground flax seeds daily. I cut back on meat just because I was too lazy to cook, not because I was making an effort to do so. I got one heck of a woosh! Those fats were the only thing that changed.

Mischa - hope you have a better day today. IMHO, it's more important to listen to your body than to stick to the FFP 1200ish calories, especially for a taller, muscular gal like you. I'm sure you didn't pollute your liver too much.

"That's 8 lbs of fluid!! Can that be possible"

Mary - great job!!! I'd say yes. I've lost 7 lbs of fluid (or whatever) since Sunday.

--
So is anyone getting bored or frustrated yet? I am, a bit, but I keep telling myself, "you can have it in (x) days. It'll still be there." I realized that I have a bit of an emotional attachment to the coffee, even decaf. The weather here is *bitterly* cold, and "a nice pot of decaf when I get home" has been the "carrot" I dangle to get myself out there when I need to run my errands. Dandelion tea or hot lemon water ain't the same.

Well, I hope everyone has a great day.
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 11:33
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Plan: LC, GF
Stats: 241/190/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 50%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
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Greetings Flushers and Kissers

3 days of Fat Flush down, and 25 more to go I'm definitely seeing and feeling the water-bloat disappear -- but not stepping on the scales until Saturday. Yeah, I spiked up too over the prior week, and didn't change my stats. If I changed my stats with every spike up then down, I'd be changing the number daily. Up down up down .. my weight chart at Fitday looks like an ECG trace!

For now I'm just thrilled that my pants are getting comfortable again, and my hands are less puffy.

Onward!! Hope everyone has a wonderful day


Doreen
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 11:36
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Plan: South Beach
Stats: 185/180/175 Female 5'11"
BF:
Progress: 50%
Location: Hill Country, Texas
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looks like a lot of us just didn't update that profile

I did when I weighed Monday but I can tell you I've probably been at 179 since before Christmas


Day 3 and got on the scale. Looks like a couple pounds down but I'm not officially claming anything until Sunday, after 1 week. Keeping my fingers crossed.

This is definitely harder than I thought it would be. I came back to my office after a meeting hungry for a snack and all I have here is Wasa's and cheese. I do have a doz. raw eggs in the fridge but already had 3 fried for breakfast. Can you "OD" on eggs??? Heading home for lunch in a few so I'll fill up on some water.

Looks like we are all having our ups and downs. We've just got to hang in there. I see the losses are showing and our efforts will not be in vain.
Humpday Hugs going out to everyone!
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 11:46
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doreen T doreen T is offline
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Plan: LC, GF
Stats: 241/190/140 Female 165 cm
BF:
Progress: 50%
Location: Eastern ON, Canada
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.... Dandelion tea or hot lemon water ain't the same. ....
Try heating a mug of cranwater with a cinnamon stick and a strip or two of lemon or orange zest. Add a few dots of stevia if desired. It's a nice change


Doreen
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 11:58
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Plan: My Fitness Pal
Stats: 156.2/123.8/120 Female 5 ft 4 ins
BF:Got some, thanks
Progress: 90%
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne,U K
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I'm down 4.5 lbs since Friday and that's with the slice of bacon I had with my breakfast yesterday!!
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Old Wed, Jan-07-04, 12:19
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anais57 anais57 is offline
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Plan: starting over.. again
Stats: 194/173/150 Female 4'11"
BF:
Progress: 48%
Location: duluth, mn
Thumbs down turnips

hey chris, i would have thought no way to turnips.... but they weren't half bad. a little stronger tasting, but it went great with my steak and mushrooms.
i will have them again...maybe even tomorrow. btw...what is that weird wax that is on it? i peeled it all off, but they don't grow that way do they?

a day and half and i am doing a lot better than i thought. even though i am dragging around here, i keep telling myself that in a few days i will see results and after being stalled for 8 months... it will all be worth it.

it's still so dang cold. i want to be out skiing, but they have the ski hill closed. hopefully, it will warm up by the weekend so for now i am off to pop in by aeroboxing tape.
happy flushing and kissing
~catherine

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