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Old Wed, Oct-01-03, 19:27
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I found this at a Pathologist's Website... Thought it may be interesting...

He is talking about the nutrition lecture, Here is an excerpt

http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/nutr.htm

http://www.pathguy.com


"This unit should upset you.

Your patients have plenty of good questions about food and disease. There are more fads and nonsense about "nutrition" than about any other health subject, and surprisingly, there are still some basic "unknowns". Any study involving nutrition is "news", and is immediately distorted in the media, ultimately hurting the credibility of science.


For example... In my 20-plus years as a medical school teacher, I have never taught (or believed) that fat / saturated fat in the diet is "bad". Nor, despite decades of trying, is there any hard evidence that this is true. How this longstanding crock was perpetrated on the public: Science 291: 2536, 2001.
I have watched "official" recommendations for a "healthy diet" change from "the four basic food groups" (promoted by the dairy industry) to today's "food guide pyramid" (definitions of what a "serving" is vary by over 100% from agency to agency, and the recommendation to limit animal protein is obviously politics rather than science).



We have far more food in the U.S. than we need, and enough micronutrients.


With the welfare cutbacks of the mid-1990's, hunger began prompting more of the poor to seek hospital admission. The authors of the major study concluded that if you have an income of less than $10,000 or were on drugs, you might not always have enough to eat (JAMA 279: 1211, 1998). Similarly, poor diabetics getting sick from skipping meals is becoming much more common (JAMA, same source).
You will have to decide for yourself about the ethics of using nutritional supplements (even as placebos) in the absence of controlled studies demonstrating, or a clear theoretical model explaining, their benefits.

Many of your patients are taking supplements, known or unknown to you. ("Americans have the most expensive urine in the world.") Your lecturer is undecided on the value of these. Anecdotal accounts are sometimes impressive, but series evidence for their value isn't impressive, and in any case, you shouldn't have to spend much money. See Geriatrics 47: 56, 1992, more recently JAMA 287: 3116 & 3127, 2002 found only theoretical reasons to supplement ($10/year is plenty despite all the hype that this article generated). A new placebo-controlled study finally found some benefit in healthy folks and especially in diabetics (Ann. Int. Med. 138: 365, 2003). The riddle is to find the particular patient whose health will be improved by a particular nutritional supplement. Keep your eyes and ears open. "


I was wondering if anyone had Medline access to check up on the bold sources he sited in this excerpt...

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Old Wed, Oct-01-03, 19:36
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Hi Korry (I swear I'm not following you today! )

Medline is available to the general public now, so everyone can have a party.

Here's the link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/

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Old Wed, Oct-01-03, 19:45
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Thanks for the link... I will check it out...

Any advice, of course, is appreciated...

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I found this instead... interesting...
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J Pediatr. 2003 Mar;142(3):225-7.

Effects of a low-carbohydrate diet on weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor in overweight adolescents.

Sondike SB, Copperman N, Jacobson MS.

Division of Adolescent Medicine, Schneider Children's Hospital, New Hyde Park, New York 10128, USA.

OBJECTIVES: To compare the effects of a low-carbohydrate (LC) diet with those of a low-fat (LF) diet on weight loss and serum lipids in overweight adolescents. DESIGN: A randomized, controlled 12-week trial. SETTING: Atherosclerosis prevention referral center. METHODS: Random, nonblinded assignment of participants referred for weight management. The study group (LC) (n = 16) was instructed to consume <20 g of carbohydrate per day for 2 weeks, then <40 g/day for 10 weeks, and to eat LC foods according to hunger. The control group (LF) (n = 14) was instructed to consume <30% of energy from fat. Diet composition and weight were monitored and recorded every 2 weeks. Serum lipid profiles were obtained at the start of the study and after 12 weeks. RESULTS: The LC group lost more weight (mean, 9.9 +/- 9.3 kg vs 4.1 +/- 4.9 kg, P <.05) and had improvement in non-HDL cholesterol levels (P <.05). There was improvement in LDL cholesterol levels (P <.05) in the LF group but not in the LC group. There were no adverse effects on the lipid profiles of participants in either group. CONCLUSIONS: The LC diet appears to be an effective method for short-term weight loss in overweight adolescents and does not harm the lipid profile.

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PMID: 12640371 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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And this abstract was interesting as well
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Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1996 Dec;20(12):1067-72. Related Articles, Links

Weight-loss with low or high carbohydrate diet?

Golay A, Eigenheer C, Morel Y, Kujawski P, Lehmann T, de Tonnac N.

Department of Internal Medicine, University Hospital Geneva.

OBJECTIVE: With obesity being recognized as an important cardiovascular risk factor, it is important to determine the optimal hypocaloric diet for decreasing that risk. The goal of this study was to compare the effects of two hypocaloric diets of similar caloric value, but differing in carbohydrate content (25% and 45%). SUBJECTS: Sixty-eight out-patients were followed for 12 w. DESIGN: The patients were assigned to one of two groups that received either a low (25% CHO, n = 31) or a high (45% CHO, n = 37) carbohydrate hypocaloric diet (5.0 MJ/d, 1200 Kcal/d). RESULTS: After 12 w, the mean weight loss was similar and did not differ significantly between the two groups: 10.2 +/- 0.7 kg (25% CHO) and 8.6 +/- 0.8 kg (45% CHO). Furthermore, loss of adipose tissue was similar, 8.1 +/- 0.5 kg (25% CHO) and 7.1 +/- 0.7 kg (45% CHO). Despite a high protein intake (1.4 g/kg/ideal body weight) there was loss of lean body mass: 2.2 +/- 0.4 kg (25% CHO) and 1.4 +/- 0.3 kg (45% CHO). The waist/hip ratio diminished significantly (P < 0.001) and identically in both groups. The fasting blood glucose (even though normal, along with cholesterol and triglyceride concentrations, were significantly decreased after weight loss. The fasting blood insulin which was mildly elevated before weight loss decreased more markedly with the 25% CHO diet compared to the 45% CHO diet (P < 0.003). The glucose/insulin ratio improved significantly (P < 0.05) after weight loss with both diets (0.17 +/- 0.04 mmol/mU (25% CHO) vs 0.10 +/- 0.03 mmol/mU (45% CHO). CONCLUSIONS: Neither diet offered a significant advantage when comparing weight loss or other, metabolic parameters over a 12 w period. However, considering the greater improvement of fasting blood insulin, the glucose/insulin ratio and blood triglyceride, the low carbohydrate diet (25%) could be more favourable in the long-term. The improvement of fasting blood insulin could be explained by the differences in monounsaturated fat composition in the low carbohydrate diet.

PMID: 8968851 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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