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Old Sun, Jul-13-03, 16:19
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For example, science has well-established the age of the universe as being in the billions of years, but religion puts that age at about 6000. It cannot be both.


Religous scholars, not religion, directly stated the earth was 6,000 years old. This is based on a literal interpretation of scripture. You cannot always read scripture literally. I find no reason why the earth cannot have been both created by God and be billions of years old.

If the Bible left out years of Jesus' (God's son's) life...why is it so hard to fathom that it is possible that it may also have left out alot more. In addition, the 6,000 year figure was based on modern science. Think about that for a second. Without the modern sciences of Astronomy and Physiology...they could never have put a date on creation. The days/years listed in the Bible were assumed to be Earth years/day...which draws on Astronomy and our understanding of what constitutes a year/day. Could the Biblical day/year be different than our own ???

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Former Secretary of the Interior James Watt said that we had to hurry up and use up all our natural resources, because Jesus was returning soon, and He'd be pissed if we wasted any by not exploiting them fully. Ludicrous, of course, but also perfectly in line with a non-hypocritical reading of Scripture.


Nothing ludicrous about it. Our earth was designed to give us everything we need. Science says resource A will be used up in a Billion years. But, science never said the world won't end before then. Both could very well be right. That resource could dry up in a Billion years and the world could very well come to an end long before then.

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A Christian geologist, for another example, would be utterly helpless in finding oil deposits without information derived from Physics, Evolutionary Biology, and a host of other disciplines at odds with religious teachings. Prayer won't help you find oil, but Darwin will.


Physics is not at odds with religion. Physics is how God designed the world to work. It is his method. Where in the Bible does it say that Newton was wrong or that there is no gravity ??? Evolution is the only science at odds with religion.

Scripture is not literal. When God says he made B from A, who knows that there may not have been something in between that was left out of the scripture. Just because the Bible/Torah/Nevi'im/Koran doesn't say it happened, doesn't mean it didn't. Even if we believe in science, who is to say that God/Jesus did not simply violate the laws of science when he performed some act mentioned in the Bible.
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