well I went and fell of the wagon, went to London and having a new kitchen and well and truly bruised my Bum (while falling off the wagon*l*) I have got back on and feel better already, I must addmitt it probally did me some good to see how weary I felt with so many carbs, anyway hope to get lots of support from u all out there and if anyone wants a low carb buddy in the manchester area, I'm up for it.