Hi all, I have a touchy topic, so I thought I would raise it in here.

***DISCLAIMER: I am not talking about nor criticising anyone who is one one of the plans that allows this IN COMBINATION WITH a LOT of exercise (such as BFL) or other strict rules (such as CAD) my point is NOT to bash those WOEs. My point is: Pick or design a plan and stick with it, but please STOP turning to others enjoying (working hard) on their plans and expect them to feed you excuses for your own failure***

Begin rant:
I am really just *up to here* with the countless questions/excuses/rationalizing regarding going off plan and "eating what you want."

We all came here to get healthier and lose weight.

I don't understand why there's always SO MUCH chatter about refeeds/one meal a week of whatever (junk) I want/carb up/carb blowout/INSERT FANCY TITLE OR EXCUSE TO EAT THAT JUNK HERE.

Or worse! "I quit. I am going to have pizza and nachos whenever I want, the size of my arse be damned! This WOE doesn't work because it's not all GONE in a *tenth* of the time I put the weight on!!"

Then let the excuses and rationalizing begin. And they wonder why they stall.

Everyone says here over and over (and OVER) that *Frankenfoods are not that great and can make you stall! So leave them alone!*

And yet? Every day, there are a few new people who break their plan all to pieces with those things, then are surprised when they have issues.

Or, the alternative: Oh NOOOOOO I accidentally ate a slice of pizza!!!!!1!!1 posts everywhere.

How does one accidentally EAT seomething? Your mouth is in your head thus connected to both your eyes and your brain and your brain controls your mouth and your hands.

Stop it. Stop accidentally eating stuff you know is BAD for you, and if you won't? Then at least stop having a panic attack about it after the fact.

Either do not eat the stuff you should not, or do. But make a choice and stick with it.

Frankly, I want to offer support whenever and wherever I can, but the 15th panicked hyper post of someone who "accidentally ate a big pile of nachos at a restaurant" just makes me cringe. It is honestly hard for me to feel like taking the time to write out a carefully considered and drafted post for someone I don't even know but wish to help anyway, just to have them totally IGNORE everything *we all* had to say to them, then watch them come back and state that they did the EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE of what a whole gaggle of LCers told them to do when they asked.

So, to the people who are always asking the same questions in different forms and places: But if I just eat (insert junk here) on just these (insert some occasion/day of the week/other excuse here) then will that be OK?

My answer: Well. Will it? Will it be OK with YOU if your weight loss takes a week or month or year longer? Will it be OK to be dependant on those bad carbs like a crack addict to the cocaine? Will it be OK when you fall off completely because you have not yet learned to control yourself? Will it be OK when you have gained BACK 10 lbs or more which you NOW have to drag allll the way back UP that slippery slope of bad food choices with you? Would it be OK with you if someone forced you to eat things you know you shouldn't? No? Then why work so hard to find a reason to do it to yourself?

If all of the above is NOT OK with YOU, then just stop it.

People go on and on about how good they feel/think/etc. How WONDERFUL this is, then they turn around and want to mess themselves up by "fishing" for a reason why it's OK to sabotage themselves. It's like they want someone else to say "sure" so that when they fall down the slippery slope of excuses and bad choices, they can say: But those people in the forum said it was OK so it's their fault. Thus completing the chain of not taking responsibility for oneself. That is how a lot of us got here people, it's not the way to get better.

Also, those who are constantly excuse fishing don't need our permission to screw up your plan - you can do that just fine on your own.

Bars and shakes do not a Low Carb WOE make, people. LEAVE THE CRAP ALONE! Otherwise, you are just trading one problem for another. Do you really want that?

We are all smart, responsible people - or we would not be here trying to change ourselves.

All I am trying to say here, is that if we came here to change ourselves, then for goodness' sake, let's ALL stop making excuses and just do it!

Also, I would like to point out, that if you have been one of those people posting like that - and you don't get answers you want to hear, you can pretty much rely on the fact that what I've written above is why. I know for a fact other people feel the same way I do, but I needed to say it, finally, out loud.

I prefer to help people who actually want the help, not just an easy excuse to go off plan just to mess up weeks or months of success just to have that one quick failure.

This is a whole new path. You cannot use your old map on this new path and if you try you'll only end up lost in the woods. Get a new map.

Sheesh, I guess that's all.

In closing, I would like to just send best wishes to everyone on their plans!
~Kimberly