Hi everyone-
I'm still searching for the right diet and I've tried CKD for the past 3 weeks & it isn't working - so I want to switch to TKD, however, I don't quite get what carbs one should eat before & after the workout. I know they are discribed in the book, but I can't find good examples, and what's the deal with Smarties & Skittles anyway?

They're good TKD 'foods' (If we can call them that ) because they are largely maltodextrin and dextrose - some of the closest sugars to the glucose your body uses. This means little work in metabolising them - they get into your system quickly and with minimal effort.

You can also use pure maltodextrin (bulk food stores often carry it)

Nat

Nat,

When you say pure maltodextrin, do you mean in powder form????

Also, do you have any other ideas/suggestions for things that contain pure dextrose? other than smarties, twizzlers??? I've been reading labels galore, and just finding sucrose and fructose

Also, is dextrose available in powder?

TIA

Yes, and yes (it is available up here - at bulk / natural food stores, and it's been found in asian grocery stores as well).

Not sure but I believe twizzlers are made with corn syrop.

Smarties (aka Rockets in Canada), sweet tarts, pixie sticks, skittles and I think someone mentioned candy corns (not sure on this one though).

-N

I found powdered dextrose in a bulk store--labeled "Corn sugar," I think, and with "dextrose" in small letters after.

Nat--Candy corns??? Really??? I LOVE candy corns! Gonna have to go check and maybe get me some!

Also, apparently candy necklaces and other similar (hard, pressed powdery) candies are made of dextrose and maltodextrin. Happy carbing!

Could you share a bit more of why you felt the CKD wasnt working for you? Did you not lose any body fat or was it another issue with the program?

Just curious........

No luck...here's what I've got so far:

Candy Corn: Sugar, corn syrup, egg whites, honey, soy protein, salt, artificial flavors, confectioners glaze, carnauba wax, artificial colors (Red 3, Yellow 5, Yellow 6).

From another source:
Ingredients: Sugar, Corn syrup, Salt, Confectioner's Glaze, Honey,
Dextrose, Gelatin, Artificial Flavor, Yellow 6, Yellow 5, Red 3

I'm gonna go pout now.

Candy corn is out then!

Found another: Willy Wonka Bottle Caps - dextrose based apparently.

-Nat

Those are SOOOO good

Thanks Nat & Alopex!!

I'll start looking tonite

With CKD I found the way I felt going in & out of ketosis to be difficult, thus I prolonged the Carb-up "high" and cheated. I thought that perhaps the steady state of TKD may be something that would work better for me.
Feel free to comment because maybe I'm wasn't doing something right to even my carb high & lows.

LOL I think that would work, Friday. Those are all the good stuff. The only thing I might change is the protein drink, depending how much protein there is in it. You might want to have a whole one, just to make sure.

Alopex

P.S. Now, I KNOW those BF numbers of yours CAN'T be right!

ABB Pure Pro has 40 g protein and 2 g carbs. The carbs are from rice oglio-saccharides, which supposedly assist absorption. That would be 20 g before, and 20 after.

What, you don't think I have 213% bodyfat? I have about 135# lean, so the numbers are correct, however unfortunate they may be. Do note, however, that I reversed the weight and BF fields so that my goal progress is calculated from BF, not weight.

I'd like to get into the 19-22% range ultimately, but for now the goal is just to be 'normal.'

Cheers,

Friday

Well I knew the numbers were reversed, but I didn't know for sure that you had done it on purpose. Actually, I like the idea, since I'm more interested in a goal BF% than a goal weight too.

It just struck me when I glanced over, that's all.

I didn't realize you were having a whole shake around your workout. I thought maybe just half afterwards. What you're doing sounds good to me, though.

I know this question has probably been answered a milion times before (and I have probably read the answer a million times) but can someone clarify the good vs. bad sugars issue... I find myself confused after reading through this post. I appologize!