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Old Mon, Nov-03-03, 20:27
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Ok, I had an idea. I read about the fat fast and was interested by it. in essence you eat 90% fat, 1000 calories because you want your body to use it's own fat reserves. so you cut your intake down to 1000 cal. but wouldn't you get even more done by making those 1000 cal. protein? if I am wrong please correct me, but I thought the order of energy consumption was 1.carbs 2.fat 3.protien.
now, before you start telling me I shouldn't think about doing a fast cause it's not good for you, ect. I am not planning to do a fast, but just thinking about them for the sake of thinking.
besides I need more posts, I only have 2 eggs http://forum.lowcarber.org/newthrea...=newthread&f=1#
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Old Mon, Nov-03-03, 20:28
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opps !!!
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Old Mon, Nov-03-03, 20:53
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Excess protien can be converted to gluclose by the body, just as carbs are. Atkins states that when he says to have only adiquet protien, and that his WOE is a high fat diet, not a high protien one.

Another thing to remember is that even on the fat fast there are some carbs and protien there. If you were to do pure protien (for the ease of math) you would have a hard time reaching 1,000 calories.

You would have to eat 250g of protien a day (that's assuming 4 cals per gram of protien). Another problem is besides shrimp (which has some carbs) fat free protien is hard to come by naturally. Even bonless, skinless, chicken breasts contain more then 10% fat. Almost any protien with little to no fat has carbs (fat free cottage cheese, shell fish, and so on).

Remember too that fat has many benifits such as to heart and digestive system. While it would be rare (someone would have to have a preexisting condition) there could also be problems with kidneys and so on. The condition may be so slight that under normal eating, or even the adiquet protien of an LC diet, it's unoticable, but when you really jack up the protien it could be too much.
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Old Mon, Nov-03-03, 20:58
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Ladybelle is correct. If a protein fast *would* be better, Dr Atkins probably didn't have any info supporting it. He based his fat fast on the Kekwick study, which was the fastest and most effective he had ever come across.

Nice idea, though. It's not like a meat fast has never been tried. By meat fasting instead of fat fasting, you're eliminating dairy and nuts, which could be stallers for some.

(The obligatory disclaimer: I don't recommend it. )

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Based on what I have read, eating a super high protein diet will make you sick. Fat or carbohydrates can be eaten regularily in large quantity and leave you feeling well.
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