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Old Wed, Oct-22-03, 15:52
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Balance is usually a great show. I watch it every day at lunch but I was upset today when I saw their segment "Beware Fad Diets". They only showed the Induction level of Atkins menu. Maybe he's just jealous because his book is not selling as well as DANDR.

Beware Fad Diets

Beware Fad Diets

Wednesday, October 1
By Balancetv.ca

Fad diets. Can't live with them? So why not just live without them?

Dr. David Katz, preventative medicine expert, world-reknowned diet doctor from the Yale School of Medicine and author of The Way to Eat, joined Balance Television host Dr. Marla Shapiro to weigh in on the facts about diet fads.

The Zone Diet

Including breakfast, lunch and dinner, the Zone Diet is delivered to you so you just go ahead and eat it without thinking. Katz's question is: can you do this on your own?

Katz noted the positive aspects of the meals, which included fruits and vegetables and fish for dinner. He said there was little in the way of fibre and that the Zone Diet was high-protein, with cheese for breakfast and meat in the lunch. The grains are limited and there's unnecessary fat in the breakfast.

"You're really missing out on certain foods that are very health promoting," Katz said. "We have great evidence that whole grains reduce cancer risk, reduce heart disease risk and they're really largely absent from this meal plan."

The Atkins Diet

typical daily meal on the Atkins plan cosists of: cheese and avocado omelette for breakfast; caesar salad with lots of cheese and lots of dressing for lunch; and a huge steak and mixed greens for dinner.

"The Atkins diet in particular is problematic because it's very high in saturated fat and very restricted in health-promoting grains," Katz said.

He noted that the typical Atkins day had no grains, limited variety of vegetables. "There's cheese, there's meat. There's cheese, there's eggs. There's beef. Very high in saturated fat."

People know that trials studying the Atkins diet have shown weight loss and a declining cholesterol over the short term. "So what?" Katz said. "If you're trying to treat anxiety in the short term you could use cigarettes and if you studied that it would show that it works. But we know that over a lifetime, it's terrible for you."

Animal fat, Katz said, is linked to prostate cancer and colon cancer. And the lack of fruits and vegetables with phytochemicals in this diet could be risky.

The following are some of Katz's food suggestions for a more balanced diet:

• Whole grain cereal with fruit for breakfast -- it's good for intestinal health and it lowers insulin and blood-glucose levels.

• Lots of fruits and lots of vegetables

• Polyunsaturated omega 3 fats from fish

• Nuts and seeds -- healthy sources of health-promoting oils

So why aren't people eating this way? Katz said that what people need are the skills for shopping and stocking their pantries and refrigerators. That way they can access health-promoting foods every day.

"If you do that," he said, "suddenly a world of healthful eating opens up to you and you can eat well and control your weight."
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Old Wed, Oct-22-03, 16:07
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"health-promoting grains" my no-longer-quite-so-large behind!
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Old Wed, Oct-22-03, 18:26
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• Whole grain cereal with fruit for breakfast -- it's good for intestinal health and it lowers insulin and blood-glucose levels.

How!?!
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Old Wed, Oct-22-03, 18:36
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What happens when you eat Hi-Carb crap like Cereal, is your body squirts insulin like crazy. The Insulin transports the Glucose to be stored as fat. Your Blood Sugar levels rise sharply and then drop off...Your Blood Sugar drops very low and your body starts screaming for more carbs to feed it. This causes most folks to give in and eat more carbs, resulting in the cycle repeating itself over and over again.
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So what they're saying is (using the first half of your "explanation" ) that because it causes your insulin levels to spike in order to clear out the glucose, and using that excess insulin up [hopefully], it promotes a low insulin, low bloodsugar state.

What a crock!

BTW: My question was really just rhetorical.
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What an ASS!

This guy knows NOTHING about addiction at all! "People know that trials studying the Atkins diet have shown weight loss and a declining cholesterol over the short term. "So what?" Katz said. "If you're trying to treat anxiety in the short term you could use cigarettes and if you studied that it would show that it works. But we know that over a lifetime, it's terrible for you."

And how the hell did he become a doctor when he says a person could use cigarettes (nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known to man) in the short term? I was 14 when I started, and 27 when I managed to quit. Yeah, like that's really short-term... My father died at 64 from nicotine addiction... guess he was happy all the time from relieving his anxiety, huh?

Myself, I went through crazy behaviour while hiding my continued smoking from loved ones before I quit, and withdrawals like I have never known after, and he thinks that smoking "reduces anxiety." Reduces anxiety?!? It only replenishes the nicotine in your body so one doesn't go through withdrawals!! Much like constantly feeding your body carbs when you are addicted to them!!

Good lord what an idiot! That is why I am here - after being able to get one addiction under control, this place is the only one that made sense to me to calm the carb addict in me. Morons like Dr. Katz really piss me off - people listen to them, and they are dispensing crap for advice!! People DIE listening to these morons!!!!!!

Diana

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Old Thu, Oct-23-03, 12:56
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Obviously this guy is more a "sensationalist" than a "scientist"

And someone tell this guy to lose the ego, already...


It just isn't healthy (the ego)
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 11:33
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Is Katz a PH.D or MD? What an idiot...he has certainly learned to speak in sound bites, though.
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 14:29
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David Katz is frequently quoted in Oprah's magazine as a nutrition expert...part of what I see as her anti-low carb gang.
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 14:58
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Uhmm...a nutrition expert. So I wonder what his doctorate (assuming he has one) is in. Could be nutrition or...it could be waste disposal. I just want to know what his qualifications are, other than lots of reading. Like the rest of us.
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 15:29
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Bah Humbug!

• Whole grain cereal with fruit for breakfast -- it's good for intestinal health and it lowers insulin and blood-glucose levels

And by 9:30 am you are so hungry that you eat more crap, Like Doughnuts or muffins!
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 17:19
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O magazine says Katz is an M.D. and "head of the Yale University School of Medicine Prevention Research Center."
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Old Fri, Oct-24-03, 17:24
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Interesting, that. Makes you wonder how he views the studies from respected researchers and institutions that are showing that low carb isn't the killer "diet" as has been portrayed, and actually works and also lowers blood lipids.
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