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Old Sat, Aug-23-03, 18:07
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I am diabetic 2, underweight, have been on bernstein plan for 3 months, no medications, 2 times a week at gym for 1-2 hours.
Last week I got my blood report as follows :
HBA1c : 5 (before did not know, but 3 months ago my fasting BG was 136, and 2hr PP was 240), now my fasting BG always around 90-105.
Cholesterol total : 166 (before 185)
LDL : 103 (before 31)
HDL : 48 (before 35)
Triglyceride : 76 (before 595, yes this HIGH)
Albumin : 4.61
Ureum : 47 (before 17) ---> NORMAL is 10-22mg/DL
Creatinin : 0.73 (before 0.65)

Compared the data, everything seems good, only worry about the Ureum level in blood which is far too high from normal level.
I read that UREUM level in blood is affected by what we eat, and yes I eat much protein (around 50grams per serving, mostly from fresh fish and egg), and this worries me if in the long term will do any harm ?.
I know that Atkins, Bernstein, PP all asure that high protein intake will not do harm for healthy kydney. (and I think my kydney is healthy)
Does anybody there ever check for BUN (Urea Nitrogen) level ?, and is it also elevated ?,
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Old Mon, Aug-25-03, 15:03
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To be honest, I've never experienced this problem, but it may be that 150 grams of protein per day is a bit more than what you really need or your body can handle. Low carb is meant to be a high fat, adequate protein way of eating, not a high protein one, even though the low carb plans do state that higher amounts or protein (compared to the high carb/low fat/low protein diets) do not put any undue stress on healthy kidneys. Did they check to see if you had protein in your urine?

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Old Wed, Aug-27-03, 02:54
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Dear Lisa, Thanks for your comments.
Sorry for late replying, I was waiting for this morning result.
This morning, I went to my doctor to see my new blood test which he took 2 days ago.
Surprisingly, my Urea Nitrogen level had dropped to 12 mg/dl.
So... I can assume that my BUN level is really affected by water intake. one day before my blood was taken 2 days ago, I drank pretty much water, maybe around 16 glass per day, while I keep on dieting high protein, and it shows my BUN level decrease.
Well...now I feel comfortable.
I did not realize before that drinking a lot of water really makes so much different. anyway thanks a lot.
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Old Wed, Aug-27-03, 03:26
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I am a nurse and what i learned is that your BUN being elevated without creatinine being elevated is almost always a sign of dehydration.

I had mine done Bun was 11 and creatine 0.8 so your new levels are very similar to mine.

Doctors really start to worry when your creatinine or both BUN and creatinine become elevated.
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Old Wed, Aug-27-03, 10:10
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Hi,

I don't know much about some of these diagnostic tests and I read this thread with interest. However, I was confused by some of what you were talking about.

My last test for microalbumin came back (5.8) and it also gave me a result for creatinine from the same urine sample which they told me was 170. They said they didn't have a normal range for creatinine, but my test was "normal."

I looked online but found ranges only for microalbumin, not creatinine. My 170 is nothing like the .7 or .8 you guys mention - can anybody give me a little clarification?

I don't even know what the BUM test is - what are the recommended guidelines for who should have this test done?

Just trying to educate myself a little more.
Thanks, Deb

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Old Tue, Sep-23-03, 08:51
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Ouch, my BUN was 69 and my Creatinine 1.9. I'm scheduled today for a kidney ultrasound. Wish me luck!

Also, the nurse is better apt to answer your medical questions, Deb, but *I* know for sure that a BUM test is like when your lazy brother-in-law doesn't work! :-)
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Old Tue, Sep-23-03, 22:54
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Hi.. I thought blood creatinine 'normal' results depended on your age. Eve
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