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Old Sun, Mar-14-04, 22:52
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What is great about this story is the paragraph "Kidney dialysis patients also need to load up on protein, says Drees, who chairs the patient and public education committee of the National Kidney Foundation's council on renal nutrition. They typically require 20 percent more high quality animal protein -- six to eight ounces a day -- than people not on dialysis." So much for the 'protein damages kidneys' charges against low-carbing.

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Protecting Your Kidneys
By Adam Marcus
HealthDay Reporter
SUNDAY, March 14 (HealthDayNews) -- You probably take your garbage disposal for granted and curse it when it fails. Don't make the same mistake with your kidneys.
These fist-sized organs, which sit near the middle of the back, just below the rib cage, are charged with removing waste and excess water from the blood, and they do so by forming urine.
Kidneys are durable, but a variety of complications can keep them from doing their job. These include infections, stones, cancer and polycystic kidney disease, a genetic disorder in which multiple cysts grow in the organs. If these problems persist, the kidneys can fail, leaving patients unable to clean their blood.
But the leading causes of kidney failure in the United States are preventable -- high blood pressure and diabetes, says Dr. Brian Pereira, a professor of medicine at Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston and president of the National Kidney Foundation.
That's a message worth sharing in March, which has been designated National Kidney Month.
"There are probably about 20 million people with chronic kidney disease in the United States," says Pereira.
Diabetes accounts for 35 percent of all kidney failure in this country, while poorly controlled or uncontrolled high blood pressure is behind 23 percent of all U.S. cases, according to the kidney group.
High blood pressure hardens the vessels in the kidneys' filtering units, or glomeruli. Ultimately, unless the pressure is relieved, the kidney cells die off.
Diabetes damages the kidneys by allowing harmful amounts of blood sugar -- called glucose -- to reach the glomeruli.
Kidney disease is typically silent in its initial stages, Pereira says. "By the time you get symptomatic, it's pretty late," he says.
Many people can have chronic kidney disease for years without feeling ill. Only when the organs have all but failed do symptoms appear, among them upset stomach, perpetual fatigue, yellowed skin and swelling in the hands and feet.
That's why early detection of kidney disease is key, Pereira says. People can take steps to prevent the progression of kidney disease to kidney failure, but once failure occurs it can't be reversed.
About 80,000 people are diagnosed with kidney failure each year in the United States, according to the National Institutes of Health.
"Our mantra is that if you have a family history of diabetes, hypertension or kidney disease, or if you have diabetes or hypertension, you need to get your blood pressure checked and have your urine checked for protein and your blood checked for creatinine," Pereira says. Protein in the urine and elevated creatinine in the blood are signs of kidney damage.
Once the kidneys fail, patients must have their blood cleaned mechanically, through a process called dialysis. At any given time, some 325,000 Americans are on kidney dialysis, Pereira says. Dialysis comes in two forms: hemodialysis, in which patients go three times a week to a clinic for several hours, and peritoneal dialysis, which can be done at home overnight.
Dialysis patients have two options: undergo a kidney transplant or spend the rest of a potentially abbreviated life being dialyzed. Last year, surgeons performed 23,373 kidney transplants in the United States, according to the United Network for Organ Sharing. Currently, about 60,000 people are signed up to receive a donor kidney.
Although kidney transplants are lifesaving, they're far from fail safe. New drugs to suppress the immune system have driven down rejection rates for kidney grafts -- 10 percent vs. 30 percent a decade ago -- but transplant failure remains a significant hurdle for patients. Organ failure is now the fourth-leading cause of end-stage kidney disease in this country, health officials say.
Just as people with healthy kidneys can take steps to keep them that way, those on dialysis can do things to prevent worsening of their organ damage.
"If you're on dialysis, diet is one of the most important things for you. It can help control the buildup of toxins that could" exacerbate kidney damage, says Elaine Drees, a nurse and nutritionist at Gambro Healthcare in Tucson, Ariz., which treats dialysis patients.
Two key nutrients for kidney patients to watch are potassium and phosphorous. A spike in potassium can be lethal to the heart, while poorly controlled phosphorous can lead to bone disease and hardening of the blood vessels, Drees says.
To control potassium, Drees advises avoiding foods rich in the nutrient, such as bananas, potatoes and tomatoes, in favor of lower-potassium fruits and vegetables like apples, grapes, pineapples and plums. Phosphorous can be kept in check with medication.
Kidney dialysis patients also need to load up on protein, says Drees, who chairs the patient and public education committee of the National Kidney Foundation's council on renal nutrition. They typically require 20 percent more high quality animal protein -- six to eight ounces a day -- than people not on dialysis.
Periera says scientists are working on drugs that can do the job -- at least partially -- of dialysis machines. But these are "nowhere near" being ready for patients. In the meantime, dialysis will continue to be an obtrusive, if lifesaving, technology.
"I like to think of it [dialysis] as, yes it's an intrusion, but it frees patients up for the rest of their life," Drees says. "They can work, be with their family."
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Wow! This seems to be the opposite of what everyone has been saying about protein and kidneys.
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I've read a couple of short "blurbs" about questioning the accepted theorey, but the most any doc/article has said is that "normal" levels of protein is fine.

I've also been posting on the CNPP Interactive Healthy Eating Index http://147.208.9.133/ and according to them, I should only have 50g protein/day. So that means this doc is suggesting doubling it? 6oz cooked chicken is around 40-46g. According to both Fitday and the CNNP iste (USDA - CNNP) I should have around 46g/day, so for me, that would be doubling it.

Also, I have read articles about people being fed high protein and found NO effect if the kidneys were healthy, but even a small amount of damage (defined as "slightly elevated" creatinine) was found to progress rapidly on high protein. But, I'm not sure off hand (I'll try to find the article) if the diet was LC or LF, just that it was high protein, and the protein amounts were over 100g/day.

I have healthy kidneys, so I'm not worried about protein. But seeing the kind of life people with kidney failure go thru, I'd be real hesitant to advise high protein...at least with high carbs. Generally kidney damage is considered permanent. I know of none that can be reversed, but it's also not my specialty. It can be stopped or slowed, but as far as I know the damage stays and each time there's a problem you become more susceptable to more damage.

If for no other reason than to verify your kidneys are working well, people should see their doc and have a urine protein and serum creatinine done. Some no longer trust the BUN, but ALL consider creatinine and protein in urine very good indicators of kidney health.

This is a topic I will be following tho! I have several friends on dialysis and the diet can be challenging! Unfortunately, too many are filling up with carbs, not fats, so they're doing more damage anyway. And they're not controlling their blood sugars or loosing weight!
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Ive always thought the protein in urine was a symptom of what was happening. Protein in the diet should not cause a kidney breakdown.
Like ketones are a symptom they don't cause the high blood glucose and muscle breakdown they are just a marker.
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"Ive always thought the protein in urine was a symptom of what was happening. Protein in the diet should not cause a kidney breakdown."

Protein in the urine IS an indicator of damage. The reason is that normally the kidney doesn't allow protein out in urine. The tubules, etc prevent protein from crossing into the urine from the blood. when there is damage, this barrier breaks down and allows protein in the urine.

The general thought has always been to help lessen the damage keep blood protein low so even if there's damage less will escape to the urine.

It makes sense that if you're excreting protein abnormally you'd need to take in more to make up for it. But my understanding has always been that the protein itself can also cause damage....so less protein in the blood means less passes the kidney barrier....and therefore does less damage.
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