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Old Tue, Oct-01-24, 14:20
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Default Why Ketogenic Diet Can Backfire on your Health

I got this yesterday from Dr. Mercola. I'm not sure what to think about it at this point.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...8&rid=130866958
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He's just another Dr. Oz to me. Largely full of it.
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I believe that Mercola went off the deep end a long time ago and any credibility he might once have had is long gone.
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I also am not a fan of Dr Mercola (nor other doctors who jumped on the keto bandwagon without understanding its limitations) but do agree with him that a "high fat keto diet" is not optimal long term. He is evaluating a Review paper of many other studies which indicated the cardiology problems before. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...4000410#abs0002

Doctors like Peter Attia (Outlive) evaluated the research 3+ years ago and abandoned Keto diets and fasting except for therapeutic use. Good info in his book on the ideal approach to managing CVD risk and blog posts.


Elevated blood lipids on "keto" are a huge confusing topic, but after ten years of defending my wonky cholesterol results (to my Duke GP) I added more nutrient dense healthy carbs, like vegetables, fruit and NF yogurt, and substituted the heavy cream, high fat cheese, fatty meats, bacon, sausage, pepperoni, pork rinds etc. with healthier choices to improve both my lipid panel and nutrition. My low carb diet is completely satiating for fewer calories with smart substitutions and it easily maintains my goal weight, nutrition and health markers.

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You're all probably right. I've known about Mercola for at least 20 years and have always had some misgivings about him and what he says. I was also put off by his commercialism with his very expensive vitamins etc.

I got a used library book of Mercola's called "Fat for Fuel", from 2017 I think. It actually has some very good technical yet understandable information about mitochondria as well as other basic information that I know to be on target from other things I've read over the years. I haven't finished the book yet, so I don't know if he comes up with anything wacky in the stuff I haven't read. But since I was reading this particular book, I was kind of surprised to see that article come from him.

Well, over 20+ years I've done a lot of reasonable diets and I ALWAYS go back to Atkins '72 to lose weight effortless,ly easily, painlessly, and relatively fast. I wouldn't live on that diet forever, but it has its uses short term.
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Mixing truth with the lie is a very old technique. I think what works best for each of us is something we have to figure out.

I did Atkins backwards, but carnivore did wonders, and I could do 20 grams of carbs, easily. But now, still struggling with autoimmune, I'm oxalate clearing with Sally K Norton techniques, and it's awesome.

But this creates problems out in the world, where my "plant based content" is deemed far too low, and I will suffer from lack of fiber. When my system complains if I have salad two days in a row. But this doesn't happen with coconut wraps.

In addition, I still eat lots of fermented fat, which makes a big difference for me. I put cream cheese or sour cream in my smoothies, especially in the winter. I think that might make a difference, because we don't eat cultured butter anymore. I love it, but it's for making veggies taste better, IMO. I'm very sensitive to their bitterness, too. I love sour, but not bitter. And I don't get along with plants, generally.

So your own efforts with Atkins Induction/Keto might be a case of using it for the therapeutic effect. While I do well with lots of protein and fat. But recently, gf bread for satiety, a starch, does work.

Maybe a summer thing. Traditionally, people would have been eating low carb in the winters, before we stored food.
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