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hey liz175, thanks for your advice, i do believe in some people it increases their apetite but i think if that is the case it is mind over matter to what you put in your mouth, can you get me the link,to read up on what she said as i cant send her a private message, so far so good looks like tom might of dissapeared from this morning , fingers crossed, and i the first 60 pound i lost on a low fat diet i was on the depo, but i have now been to the gym twice this week and i will try to go 4 times next week, once tom has gone i do 20 mins on treadmill which i find ok, and 20 mins on weights, i have nevet exercied before and i do it on a empty exercise which is meant to burn fat all day,hope to jear from you soon, take care, roch