Big Dog...I never even seen a Victoria Secret catalogue! I just hear people raving about the model's in it. I do know that the majority of women who are slim and in good shape though don't have the 6 pack, but a nicely proportioned tummy....which I would kill for after having five children and am determined to see once again. However, what I think looks really horrible is a six pack on a woman and a dark dark tan also, it seems to make their tummy look like a shrivelled prune from what I have seen at the gym. The creases look darker and it just does nothing for me...a trace is nice