The transcript show only a portion of the show. They let both sides state their positions. A plate heaped high with turkey, cheese, and bacon was showned and they asked if you could loose weight eating that. Then they brougth up that girl who died presumably from low carbing. Trager was allowed a few seconds to explain. After that it degenerated into bickering. Ornish was spewing his usual diatribe, and Trager got cut off due to lack of time.

All in all, a useless debate with lots of misinformation.