Although I am not planning on drinking anytime soon, it is nice to know that there are alternatives for one of my favorite drinks~ As far as the crushed ice... I got a food chopper so powerful it can grind cement~ but danged if I can find any recipes with it in I guess that would be what you would call a solid meal, eh? If I would drink just plain rum and coke, I could use diet rite... but those days are long gone... it's gotta taste good too~ anyhow thanks Ana and Redd for the info~ and yeah I know that alcohol can screw up my LC plan~ that's why I don't plan on drinking any for quite some time~