thanks for the article big dog, I'm thinking of starting CKD since i started doing more intense workout I have been eating way more and doubled my carbs to about 40 a day from 20 or so....

I'm eating about 1800 cal per day right now. I have some nutrition drinks from my doctor that are intended for liquid dieting I was thinking of using these for the carb up. They have almost no fat, their 20carbs and 150 cal each and loaded with vitamins and minerals. If I did use those it would keep my cals fairly low. 5 shakes are supposed to meet all your daily requirements, which is 800 calories.

Do you you think that would work? I'm interested in toning up and losing fat.

thanks Nancy