thanks rosebud for the reply, i don't think i will stick with CAD, i thought in my infinate wisdom that CAD would be an easier way to get back into that old routine of low carbing, i should have known better, i am going to reread the atkins book and get myself psyched up for a restart, until i reach the point where i feel confident enough in myself that i will stick to it, i'm going to concentate my efforts on total well being and get my head off of just weight loss, i want to be healthier and happier in the new year and just losing weight isn't going to make that happen, perhaps i will start a journal, we shall see

see ya around )