You're not likely to feel the gugguls working, and they definitely don't feel like EC. I've been taking them and I think they work for me. There's a way to check, tho. Use the search function here to find a post by TrainerDan that has the words 'deep geek' in it. Make sure you set the engine to pull individual posts. You'll need to track your AM temperature before you get out of bed in the morning. The details are in that post. (Btw, they're also supposed to have good effects on cholesterol and triglycerides, but that's a bit harder to check yourself, eh?)

Cheers!

Friday