some smart cookies on this thread! (can I call you smart cookies? Smart "pork rinds" sounds a little insulting, somehow ) Angela, your post really had me nodding my head. Not that the others' didn't--I just know the mod/mentors well enough by now that they seldom surprise me tho they always impress.

If it is harsh to wish people a life of joyous self-love, calm acceptance of their body and its processes (even if that means their natural dress size is an 18), an end to obsessive counting, and steady learning about what food is best for them, then I'll pray for more "harshness" in the world. But I agree with you, Jenn--it is the weight loss goal that (ironically!) leads some people to that self-acceptance. Unfortunately, it seems to lead even more people to self-hatred and self-destructive behaviors.

I wonder what makes that lightbulb finally go on for those of us it does go on for. If we knew, perhaps we could help other people more readily find the switch.