I read your turtle message it has some very interesting ideas. I drink about 8 glasses of water a day so i'll up that and take out dairy but other than that I eat the proper amount of food and stay in the range of carbs (20) that i'm aloted. Is there anything else you might think that will help me , for its a real discouraging thing to gain and not loose. I now that this is a life time change but some weight loss would make a world of good to my self estem to keep going.