I was taking metabolife...it has the ma hung in it. Trainerdan said I should take something that supported my throid. So I finally found some lipo {he talks more about this in the CKD section} I find that this does help me. I know of people doing WOE and what they call the stack with it. Where they take the ephedra, caffine and a baby asprin all together. I myself have not tried this. But I'm sure it would do the trick. Make sure not to over do...or try to much to quick. This is a speed! And if you have high blood pressure or heart problems...you could have a problem!! SO BE CAREFUL!! These will curb you hungry...and give you lOTS of energy!
GOOD LUCK!

Lorraine