I've asked this already but I'm afraid Satiev1 is not coming back. Apparently, his agenda was simply marketing of Dr.Ellis's books and this is why he tried to bash Atkins at the same time. I also suspect he's confused with carbs and starches. I doubt he ate nothing but meat, so may be he thinks only fruits and starches are carbs, and vegetables are not. Some folks really think that there are glycemic and non-glycemic carbs, LOL.