You're absolutely right Doreen! We need a starting point and we need to learn.

Soapbox on!

I always feel sorry for people who are not open to learning as part of the process. They're denying themselves a greater chance of successfully changing their way of life. And, I'm always amazed at people who think they can put their own plan together from heresay or just read parts of books and go from there. It's your well-being! Your fooling around with your brain and body chemistry! How much of a time investment is that worth to you?

From reading almost every post on this forum since it's inception, it never ends up being as simple as whatever low-carb diet = instant and sustained weight loss. We're fat for a bunch of different personal reasons and if we never learn anything new, we will stay fat!

Soapbox off!

Karen