I just have to put in my two cents. Man was created by God, not as chimps and then evolved to man. I know that plenty of people consider evolution to be truth. But I do not. So...with that in mind, I do not agree with VegiMax, because I do not agree with her first premise. We all are here to learn from each other. But I think VegiMax is here to spar. Which is fine. We all enjoy discussion. There are vegetarians doing low carb, as well as meat eaters. And we learn to respect each other's choices. Victoria