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Old Thu, Sep-16-04, 20:15
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Plan: NHE/UD2/General LC
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Originally Posted by fatburner
Now I'm confused again. I posted a question on a recent 'metabolic advantage of low carb' thread about whether there was a difference between ketosis (exercise or dietarily induced) and burning FFA's in your mitochondria without a ketone in sight. Somebody replied with quotes from some biochem texts which stated quite clearly that FFA metabolism directly in your mitochondria is a quite distinct metabolic energy pathway to ketosis. They both end up using acetyl CoA in cells, but get there via different metabolic pathways. Ketosis is very inefficient, which makes it such a star turn for weightloss, whereas free fatty acid burning in mitochondria is a very clean burn. Particularly because direct FFA metabolism in cells does not produce lactate as a by product as glycogen does. Both metabolize fat of course, just differently. So can you be burning just fat for energy, no glycogen, and not be in ketosis at all, particularly when you low carb long term? MPS and Built, HELP!


Your body will adapt over time to be able to use FFA instead of ketones. So less ketones are needed/produced as time goes by.
Your body can use protein to produce glucose and even glycogen to some extent.
Just because your don't show ketones on the urine strip doens't mean you're not in ketosis. It just means that you don't have many excess ketones that your body is being forced to dispose of. (This may(??) negate this aspect of the metabolic advantage over time. You would still have the high cost of converting protein to glucose though)
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