You guys are so terrific. I love the input and appreciate it enormously. I know you are all correct in finding what works for me. It is, however, interesting to see what works for others. Also, i think sometimes we do have to shake things up a bit. I am thinking about using my WW tools to keep track of points/calories, trying to stay really low carb and eat healthier fats when I can. I know the fats will add more calories so I will probably up it beyond what it used to be on WW. I think I have learned something from almost all my "attempts". The WW material is just really convenient to use and prevalent. Strictly want to use it to watch my calories/have a guideline. I know that goal date is not the be all end all. But I know how great I started feeling when I lost 20 lbs before. I am so sorry I fell off. Even my mood was better. Ah well hindsite is 20/20-onward and downward!!!!