I am so glad you have made a thread of it's own for that statement. I know everyone is wishing the best to everyone new starting out but sometimes they come off so forceful when it comes to the bar/shake issue. So many of us did stall on those things but you are so right. They ARE allowed during induction and if grabbing a chocolate atkins shake keeps you from going completely off course then by all means that is what you should do. I think experience speaks for itself and most of us are so happy to share in order to spare people the hastle of facing a frustrating stall but most of us did learn the hard way and for some of the new people starting atkins, they will need to experience that for themselves as well. Maybe they will be one of the lucky few who can actually eat the dreaded laxative bars without a stall.

Jenn