Just as a side note to let you know that all docs aren't bad....I have a history of kidney problems and a bladder disorder, but both my endo and uro think the diet's great. I guess it's just how willing someone is to change. I really think that's the problem. People get stuck in the way they've been taught for years. It's hard to make them change their minds and see that what they once thought right, is now wrong. I took me three weeks of heated arguments with my hubby for him to see what he was doing just wasn't the way to go.