eh, hootchies was right! they are about 21 now, just keep in mind that as they get older they will probably get fat. Orchid was right. the bad karma will come back and kick them in the butt. you know the old saying "i may be fat, but you're ugly , i can lose weight..what can you do" I'm glad you stood up 4 yourself, you have done really great losing let the ignorant people think what they want.. We all know the truth!!