I second what From VA said. The reason why there are so many women with the flap working their Behinds of and not getting anywhere, Is because after child Birth and after weight loss the muscles are either strechted too much that they cannot retract, or some of them even tear. That would result in having to get a tummy tuck with Muscle repair. I for one am in need for it, but honestly will probably never be able to afford it.