I didn't lose at all last summer and now the weight is really coming off. Go figure. I guess the body will lose when it's ready to lose.

As for supplements, I have gone back to the run of the mill cheapies that have most of what I want. Then I supplement with the few extras it doesn't have. Saves me money. I also happen to think that putting less herbs in my body is better than more. They're drugs even if they are "natural" and I don't need a lot of them.

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