The bars I stay away from, but the shakes I've drank two mornings this week (first week on Atkins) and I still lost over 5 pounds. The bars have like total 20+ carbs (not counting Net) but the shakes are like 6 total carbs. I found drinking the shake slowly on my commute to work helped, and I continued drinking tons of water once I got to work.

The bars, even though I have like 6 in my drawer at work, I'm avoiding. I'll give them away before I eat them.

Hope this helps,

Sam