hi esox unlike our Amercian friends our carb count is the count we dont have to deduct anything it is all done for us!!! The only thing we would deduct is polyops from carbs to give a true carb reading ie thorntons diabetic range!!! If you want more help and advise from us lot in the uk there is a uk section on this forum, found in the main forum keep scrollng down and it will have a list of other places just click on the uK forum, be be careful they are all mad!!! lol