Gosh, they have pizza places in Germany? globalization strikes. Well, I had a similar experience, place we were headed for was closed, ended up going chinese, "best choice" for me stilll had cornstarch and hidden sugars cause my post meal blood sugars were up something like 40 points. So I guess, easy to say, cause Im not very assertive, we just have to say, No, there's NOTHING there that I can eat. Stop by the market, grab some nice steaks and put them on the grill. Don't beat yourself up about it, its not you, its those addictive carbs. Bill