gotbeer, the fact that something happens in nature doesn't make it RIGHT in human civilization.

There are animals that commit infanticide, murder, and rape -- these behaviors are "natural" and make sense, given their environment.

But obviously those same behaviors are immoral for human beings in this society (I am not going to comment about other societies that I do not know about).

I'm just curious, gotbeer, have you ever taken a moral philosophy class?

If you had, you would know that "natural = moral" is a widespread fallacy.