I have a hard time with veggies, too, Rick. I rarely get in more then 8-10 carbs a day and some days not even that. I try to eat at least some lettuce and cucumbers several times a week or a salad from time to time, but have to push myself to do that, so I rarely am getting enough veggies. I eat as much as I can and then don't worry about it. While I think veggies are VERY important overall to ones health and wellbeing, I have committed to doing the best I can and then letting it go and not obsessing over it. Hasn't hurt my weight loss so far, but then again...who knows? I may have lost even more had I been able to get in all the recommended vegetables every day.

L