How Long for Protein to Be Digested in Stomach?
This morning I read this on one of the FB carnivore pages:
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Think that's true? I've always wondered how long it takes for the protein I eat to get past the stomach. Sometimes I still get reflux, but really not very often anymore. When I get it, though, it's like 2 hours after I've eaten my meal of meat (or sometimes in the mornings after not eating for more than 12 hours). Usually I just put up with it, but then I start coughing and want to take a Pepcid to relieve the acid splashing up, but hesitate because I think I might be stopping the digestion of protein. Anyone have any thoughts on this? |
I question everything I read on Facebook and I applaud your skepticism.
I do get some acid issues when I eat dairy products. I try not to have any before bed time. Also, if you rely on Pepcid, you might have issues if you're trying to go cold turkey. https://www.goodrx.com/classes/prot...ach-medications |
Agree with Nancy. After recently reading The Clot Thickens by Malcolm Kendrick, I understand that proton pump inhibitors can cause lasting damage, especially in the endothelium of arteries where plaque forms. Although Pepcid is not a PPI, I'm very suspicious about taking any pill for acid reflux. I eat a lot of protein, and occasionally get reflux. When I stopped drinking coffee (that may be just me), my reflux diminished and became very manageable. In the infrequent times I get it, half teaspoon of baking soda mixed in water does the trick.
Bawdy, you're very knowledgeable about this, but the old saw applies that an elimination approach may uncover what's causing this. I think, like Nancy, some dairy causes it for me, but I haven't gone that far to experiment. Good luck. |
Thanks, guys. I take Pepcid only rarely, and know the problems with PPIs. I was diagnosed with a hietal hernia and the doc prescribed PPIs. I refused flat out. Doesn't make sense to stop all acid when you're actually trying to digest foods. I only take it hours and hours after eating. For some reason I get reflux sometimes on an EMPTY stomach, so I figure it's not as detrimental. But again, not very often, and less and less as time goes by.
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I had to retrain my stomach to digest food using Betaine HCL. Here's an excellent article explaining it.
https://neurohacker.com/formulation/betaine Now, DH is coming off years of PPI by using this system to rebuild his own acid management. Here's a paper that says it works... as PART of PPI drug therapy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7238915/ Which is, in a nutshell, our current pharmaceutical craze which substitutes for health. |
As we age , the stomach acid becomes weaker for some people.....cant remember where that info came from.
I take ACV at many meals to increase the acid content of the stomach; and a healthy dose of salt each day: Apparently the Chloride becomes part of the HCl the stomach uses for digesting meats, etc. As for one hour....I've read a number of times over the years while trying to time meds on an empty stomachs. Pharmacists say two hours after eating, to take on empty stomach. |
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Yes, I take 2 capsules of Betaine HCL with Pepsin, along with 2 Super Digestive Enzymes, with every meal and it does help. It's going to take a while for it to fully heal, but it's definitely helping. Thanks for posting that article. I'll definitely read it. Quote:
I've read that, too, that as we age the stomach acid gets weaker for some people. From an evolutionary point of view, it seems odd, but it's probably a result of the SAD diet rather than an evolutionary change. Also, good to know about the 2 hours after eating. Thanks for mentioning that! One more quote. I also found this online, which I believe is a load of crap (no pun intended, or maybe it is!): Quote:
So, it takes up to 3 days to digest protein, and yet only 24 hours to digest fruits and veggies with fiber (which is by definition non-digestible). Yeah, right. |
ROFL.
Vegetable matter can be hard to digest...... My sheep chew cud as do cattle. The matter comes back into mouth for chewing to breakdown the cellulose and fiber. If the stomach acid could cope with that these animals would not have a 4 part stomach system. The long fibers cannot get thru the seive section to get to the true stomach, the part that matches our stomach. We are not designed to digest cellulose and lignan, it passes thru without much change. So no meaningful digestion at all. No nutrients we can absorb. Any digestion would be from the microbes, which we can then absorb. We are not rabbits with a big cecum, nor a ruminant. We need cooked veg to aid in digestion as raw is not as digestible as we don't tend to chew and chew and chew and chew. No, I don't see how vegetables are easier to digest than meats. |
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A new study in Cell has the protein people excited, it answers this question.
Marty Kendall writes: "Can you eat 'too much protein'? Is all that extra protein 'wasted'? A new study shows that high protein intakes are still used, just over a longer timeframe. Bottom line: It's impossible to overdo protein (it's a nutrient), especially if you're also not overdoing energy." https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-m...gaYmZU5emcvja5g |
Thanks for linking this critically important study, Janet. The article dated 19 December 2023 describes an elegantly designed study that confirms the human metabolic responses to varying amounts of protein and the corresponding influence on muscle/ tissue generation and the lack of amino acid oxidation for larger amounts of protein.
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It confirms that there is no need to be too particular about over consuming protein at meals, frees people to consume the amount of protein they require without worrying about wasting it, and supports those who need to increase their protein due to age and in response to the desire to preserve or increase muscle mass. The combination of regular resistance training using body weight or weights is a perfect stimulus for developing muscle when also consuming the amount of protein required. In addition, the thinking that certain proteins can be unhealthy to the gut is once again put to rest. We continue to understand more about those foods that truly constitute a healthy diet and lifestyle. Protein leveraging anyone? |
Wow..
This flies in the face of only the first 30 g of protein is useful making any thing more a waste. If im understanding this correctly.... I've been wondering for a while how a dog or coyote can get enough nutrients when they eat one big meal day. |
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"Our new work: No upper limit to the anabolic response to protein ingestion? Challenges current views on: 1⃣Dose-response relationship 2⃣"Excessive" protein getting oxidized 3⃣Protein distribution 4⃣MUCH more!" Bodybuilders have been eating "excessive protein" for decades and showing this paper's conclusions at every event But if your goal is weight loss, Marty's caveat applies, avoid overeating excessive energy with it. |
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Exactly. I never took that very seriously. I was alerted to "protein downplaying" when I tried vegetarianism, before it went extreme and vegan. Everything we learn about biology and our bodies indicates protein is the biggest macronutrient of them all. This also supports protein = satiety because the body would be the fussiest about that, first. |
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